Advice needed please - 4 year old let out of school alone

Cazza

Fluffyfluff wrote: »

He was also holding a letter when I saw him which has the cheek to ask parents to stand back whilst picking children up from Year 1 and 2 as everywhere gets too crowded. No mention of reception and is it any wonder parents stand near to the door if they let children leave with anyone!

Could this have been directed at Yr 1& 2 parents & children on purpose, who are crowding out R parents and making the really little ones feel intimidated?

pelirocco

Azari wrote: »

At four years old he's quite entitled to be a little 'babyish'.

Some children of that age (particularly those with older siblings) may appear to be quite 'grown up' but it's usually mainly just a façade. They can act grown up but you can't rely on that behaviour.


On a separate note, and not in any way wishing to downplay your concerns, when I went to school, we were let out of our classrooms en mass and made our way out of the school, across the playground and up the path to the gates entirely without the presence of any teachers.

And in all my years at primary school that never caused a problem.

Things have certainly changed.

As this , but I also had to catch a bus and pay for my ticket , along with others going to the same school . It is funny how attitudes change , the thought of a five year old making that journey without a parent scares me now , but it was normal for the time , our parents and parents before them would be horrified how we 'molly coddle'' our children now ( not a dig at the OP btw )

Poppie68

Fluffyfluff wrote: »

I've already tried to speak to him about this but I'm not sure hes completely understanding. When I spoke to the teacher I did bring up the fact that hes the youngest in his class and that he isn't at that stage yet to understand every danger. Hes still quite babyish for his age I suppose.

Your child being the 'youngest in the class' is irrelavent, all children in his class surely will be 4 years old and just as inportant.
The letter i would of thought would be given to yr1 and 2 parents because maybe they are causing the problems and ensuing chaos, and maybe the reception kids find it all abit imtimidating.
You son will learn where to stand and wait it just all takes time, you dont know all the facts yet with regards to what happened so dont go in all guns blazing, and i dont advise you making yourself a nusiance as advised by another poster....what will you gain from that.
If you have time offer to go in sometime and volunteer your child will be elated to see you there and it will help to make school a more positive experience for both of you.

Azari

Poppie68 wrote: »

Your child being the 'youngest in the class' is irrelavent, all children in his class surely will be 4 years old and just as inportant.

It's not a question of importance, it's a question of emotional maturity.

A child that has just turned four is, on average, very likely to be considerably more emotionally 'delicate' (and, indeed, have had less time to develop 'common sense') than one just about to turn five.

It's a 25% difference in development progress at a time when they are developing at their fastest.

Poppie68

Azari wrote: »

It's not a question of importance, it's a question of emotional maturity.

A child that has just turned four is, on average, very likely to be considerably more emotionally 'delicate' (and, indeed, have had less time to develop 'common sense') than one just about to turn five.

It's a 25% difference in development progress at a time when they are developing at their fastest.

In this enviorment they are in the same boat, all new to school life, will have the same insecurities and needs and therefore all should be treated the same.

Azari

Poppie68 wrote: »

In this enviorment they are in the same boat, all new to school life, will have the same insecurities and needs and therefore all should be treated the same.

If you think that all children in a reception class have the same needs and should all be treated exactly the same I just hope to hell that you are not now, nor ever become, a primary school teacher. (Or a mother or a social worker, for that matter.)

bosseyed

Poppie68 wrote: »

Your child being the 'youngest in the class' is irrelavent, all children in his class surely will be 4 years old and just as inportant.

Yes, but at that age there's a bit of difference in terms of development between a child with their birthday in September (oldest in their class) and a child with their birthday in June (youngest in their class). A difference of 8-9 months during these formative years can be quite striking when comparing two children's development, both physically and mentally.

So being the youngest in his class does have some bearing on his ability to understand all the dangers etc I would say and is of relevance.

Poppie68

Azari wrote: »

If you think that all children in a reception class have the same needs and should all be treated exactly the same I just hope to hell that you are not now, nor ever become, a primary school teacher. (Or a mother or a social worker, for that matter.)

Oh very mature of you..You sound like someone who likes to make themselves look bigger and better by putting other people down.

Oh by the way i am a mother to 3 amazing girls, all who have been brought up to respect the views of others, something you clearly haven't the ability to do.

Azari

Poppie68 wrote: »

Oh very mature of you..You sound like someone who likes to make themselves look bigger and better by putting other people down.

Oh by the way i am a mother to 3 amazing girls, all who have been brought up to respect the views of others, something you clearly haven't the ability to do.

Your hypocrisy is breathtaking.

Firstly you belittle the perfectly reasonable concern that a mother has for her very young child.

Then you ignore the perfectly reasonable response to you ill advised post, that attempted to remind you that children are very different at that age, in favour of bull headedly dismissing the OP's concerned.

And now you have the brass neck to complain at others for 'putting people down'.

I feel very sorry for your children if you are as close minded in dealing with them as you are here and if you really cannot see that different children develop differently and have different needs - especially comparing a child who has just turned four with one who is just about to turn five.

Poppie68

bosseyed wrote: »

Yes, but at that age there's a bit of difference in terms of development between a child with their birthday in September (oldest in their class) and a child with their birthday in June (youngest in their class). A difference of 8-9 months during these formative years can be quite striking when comparing two children's development, both physically and mentally.

So being the youngest in his class does have some bearing on his ability to understand all the dangers etc I would say and is of relevance.

I appreciate what you are saying 'bosseyed' but my comment was made with reference to a class full of children who are all in the same boat, who have been in school all of 2/3 weeks, they all deserve the same consideration. There maybe 'older' children in the class that have the same level of maturity as the 'younger' children, no one is going to know that after 2/3 weeks.
I would of thought teachers need time to get to know the child and their capabilities and therefore treat each child with the same level of understanding and care.