Toilet leaking into bowl

cyclonebri1

Just change the syphon unit, £13, not worth bothering anyone.

These things overflow into the toilet bowl, lots of folks don't get this.

Short lived to be honest, 3 years is fair..

keystone

Unless the flush valve is actually OK and its the diaphragm in the inlet valve which has failed or the float just beeds adjusting in which case it will still overflow via the new flush valve so thats £ 13 down the toilet for a starter.

Cheers

cyclonebri1

keystone wrote: »

Unless the flush valve is actually OK and its the diaphragm in the inlet valve which has failed or the float just beeds adjusting in which case it will still overflow via the new flush valve so thats £ 13 down the toilet for a starter.

Cheers

Ok, just change the ball valve for a £5r.

My mistake. I did mean the ball valve. doink.

But for £15 you can fit all new inerds to a toilet system.

Ask KS what he would charge though??

PS, I have posted on this recently, :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

boingsaidzebedee

Why are you assuming that a pushbutton unit has either a ball valve or a syphon.
From experience the most common fault I have with these units is failure of the inlet valve for some reason i.e.perished rubber valve or blocked with grit.
Not enough water then comes through the inlet valve or fast enough to raise the water level in the cistern to give the weight of water required to close the flush valve satisfactorily.The flush valve only seals because of the weight of water and until this reaches the required height it leaks.
The op did state it takes a while to fill the cistern--so perhaps overflowing is not the problem--rather the opposite.
I'm loving this problem and await photos with anticipation.
Could just fill the cistern from a bucket to the marked water line--if water stops running into the bowl then Robert is your fathers brother.
Or just tell us does the inlet valve just dribble or run normally.

southcoastrgi

boingsaidzebedee wrote: »

Why are you assuming that a pushbutton unit has either a ball valve or a syphon.
From experience the most common fault I have with these units is failure of the inlet valve for some reason i.e.perished rubber valve or blocked with grit.
Not enough water then comes through the inlet valve or fast enough to raise the water level in the cistern to give the weight of water required to close the flush valve satisfactorily.The flush valve only seals because of the weight of water and until this reaches the required height it leaks.
The op did state it takes a while to fill the cistern--so perhaps overflowing is not the problem--rather the opposite.
I'm loving this problem and await photos with anticipation.
Could just fill the cistern from a bucket to the marked water line--if water stops running into the bowl then Robert is your fathers brother.
Or just tell us does the inlet valve just dribble or run normally.

ok i have two probs with your post, firstly the inlet valve IS a ballvalve in whatever configeration it is, secondly no syphon, flapper valve, push button or whatever else they have in the cistern uses the weight of water to close it, so really was a waste of time you posting as you are wrong on all counts.

boingsaidzebedee

Go check out Lunns.
Is a Torbeck a ballvalve ?
What makes the plastic or rubber seal on the bottom of a Flush Valve seal in it's seat?
I suggest you take a look because the seal is made by the weight of water above unless of course you use a brick in your house.
Nice to chat --

southcoastrgi

boingsaidzebedee wrote: »

Go check out Lunns.
Is a Torbeck a ballvalve ?
What makes the plastic or rubber seal on the bottom of a Flush Valve seal in it's seat?
I suggest you take a look because the seal is made by the weight of water above unless of course you use a brick in your house.
Nice to chat --

yes it is, go into any plumbing shop or any of the sheds & you ask for a torbeck ballvalve, a flush valve sits down onto it's seating purely under it's own weight, yes the weight of water pushes it down further but that is not what makes it seal in the first place, if the flush valve req water above it to make it seal then the cistern would never fill as water would continue to flow into the pan as the valve wouldn't seal until the cistern filled up.

boingsaidzebedee

Stop backpedalling
Go tell Torbeck and the other manufacturers that they do not make FLOAT VALVES but ball valves----there is a difference.They are named and marketed as such.
If the flush valve seals itself then why does the water flow down the pan until a decent level of water is achieved in the cistern.
Try it---let the inlet valve just trickle until about half an inch in the cistern and maintain that and the seal will not be made.The weight of the falling mechanism drops the seal into the seat but weight of water makes and maintains the seal.
Can't be bothered arguing.You obviously know better.

southcoastrgi

good i'm glad you can't & yes i do, no one knows them by float valves, an inlet valve in the uk has always been known as a ballvalve, if you ask anyone (well nearly) what a ballvalve is or does they will know, ask the same people what a float valve is & very few will know, so why try to confuse everyone by calling it a float valve

not all vacum cleaners are made by hoover, but most people will still hoover up

keystone

OP please answer Post 21 which is in essence a repeat of Post 2.

Cheers