Are these the same ?

kabie

It makes me really cross. there are some things that I'd been buying for years that suddenly decided to add msg or hydrogenated oils; grr. This means I have to read the labels every time I shop.
On the brighter side though some manufacturers are realising and removing them.
M&S is a good place to shop (they don't do hydrogenated fats) and they have good offers: wonder if they do sage & onion stuffing? I couldn't afford to buy everything there but sometimes they work out cheaper : a lot of foods I want without the nasties tend to be classed as premium so aren't cheap anyhow.
For a treat I buy dark choc, melt it and then when it's poured over icecream it goes hard: so you get the same affect without the gunk.

jcr16

kabie , thansk for the tip about the melting of chocolate. i had wondered if it would work.

yesterday my little girl wanted to do some mixing , so i let her use the monster crack to play with. so they got rid of that. and i won't be buying it again.

i noticed alot of food in iceland has it. ( ie pre made pies and things. i don't buy them , but still often read whats in things , how sad )

i not sure if this is true , but i have noticed how alot of cheaper branding of food's contain these type of ingrediants. is it a cheap ingrediant to use ?

i am with my shopping now going so much more for better qualtiy than quantity. so while my food shopping may be costing more. in reflection it better for our bodys so money very well spent imo.

ti1980

Kabie-I work at M&S and I know they do sage and onion stuffing. Larger stores will probably have it in the chiller and also frozen.
M&S has taken out hydrogenated fats out of their products and as far as I know the other big supermarkets were doing the same for their own brand products.
M&S also don't have any MSG in their products so I can have guilt free Chinese meals from there when I'm treating myself or OH.

Hydrogenated fats are a cheap bulking agent perfect for padding out processed products such as cakes, biscuits, pies. They are also found in margerine. They give products a long shelf life and a luxurious 'mouth feel'.
They have been said to have more of a risk to heart health than saturated fat.

Here is a link I found on hydrogenated fats.

http://www.netmums.com/lc/food/hydrogenatedfat.php

One thing I remember one of my old lecturers saying was that everyone goes on about saturated fats and heart disease when the trans fats will probably kill you first! :eek:
Only recently has there been a lot more talk about trans fats.

lil_me

Most supermarkets are doing something about this. As the site ti1980 posted states. From what I recall they can have a certain percentage of hydrogenated oils/fats in a product without declaring aswell, small amount but still annoying. MSG I think Icelands been working on removing aswell. Don't tend to buy much food wise from supermarkets at the minute so not completely up to speed with it all but several parents I know who have avoided MSG have switched to Iceland.

I was told Atora Light contains no hydrogenated fats, someone with a packet may be able to verify that.

Organic foods aren't allowed to have trans fats in at all, so if you want to know it's definately trans fat free that is another option. Good excuse to only eat Green and Blacks chocolate, my fave

ti1980

I've not been to an Iceland for at least 6 months now, got little freezer space so not much point but a lot of their foods did seem to contain hydrogenated fats in them.
A lot can happen in 6 months in the food industry so it may have all changed now. It all depends what you buy though, I don't make much and the kinds of foods that I am likely to buy are likely to have hydrogenated fats in so I do read food labels to a certain extent.

I found another site https://www.tfx.org.uk which has a load of information on trans-fats.
It says in it that some trans fatty acids occur naturally in the digestive system of ruminant animals such as cows, sheep and goats. Some trans fatty acids are therefore present in meat, milk and other dairy produce.

thriftlady_2

We've been eating saturated fats for millenia. Animal fats are a natural, ancient food. We've been eating trans fats since the last century. The first case of heart disease was recorded in 1912. I can't help thinking there's a connection.

lil_me

Yes there are some which are unavoidable from what I have read. I think it's a case of taking on board what you know and making your own choices. Like has been said many times before many of these things we have eaten/used for years. Same with the aspartame issues etc, so far it's not known to have killed anyone but obesity and lots of sugar has, having a family full of diabetics opens your eyes a bit I think, all about making the right choices for you and your family.

ti1980

Everything in moderation I say.

likabu_2

With Icelands own products it is becoming increasingly easy to spot whether they contain hydrogenates. If the product is nasties free then it says so on the front of the box, next to the bit that says gm free or something on those lines, so you don't have to spend 10 minutes trying to decipher the ingredient list on the back!

Lisa

lil_me

Just to clarify Atora light is 47% Hydrogenated Veg oil, well the packs in local shop were today anyway. So what I was told was incorrect. Thought I would be nosey.