Air conditioning consent issue for flat

missile

I would guess you have one or more penetrations through the wall?

Perhaps you could modify one of those?

I also have top floor flat with large expanse of floor to ceiling windows in the lounge.

It can get incredibly hot. I find opening the windows works for me, but on occasion use a fan. Dyson fan works very well > http://www.dyson.co.uk/Fans/Tower/AM02/AM02-Tower-Fan-Iron-Blue.aspx

jjlandlord

giraffe69 wrote: »

. I quite understand if others don't but your views seem to come from the Jurassic era.

For someone complaining about drivel, you seem expert at it yourself.

This is England and suddenly people should need air con at home, in cars, etc. or be accused of being a Luddite?!
Such stupidity... It bodes well for the future.

squinty

Back to the original point.

Assuming you are a leasholder, with the HA having responsibility for the external fabric of the building.

It seems reasonable to refuse this request as it will damage the external fabric and potentially any insulation or vapour barrier within the wall.

If you have just purchased the flat, why did you not ask this question to the HA before completion?

giraffe69

This is England and suddenly people should need air con at home, in cars,

I think the word is want not need. Who are you to tell people what they will or won't have? As for air-con in cars haven't you noticed how common it has become? Not surprising you don't want it in your cave though. They are generally quite cool.
BTW I think Luddites post date the Jurassic era!

mark7144

Dumble: Thanks but as mentioned earlier, I'm really trying to avoid a portable unit. I currently use a high-end model now but there are a lot of negatives where as fixed units are in a league of their own.

missile: That's what I'm really hoping, that there might be some sort of penetrations I could piggyback off. Not sure what those would be though.

mart.vader

mark7144 wrote: »

The fact is, if I don't manage to get consent that I'm so desperate for, then considering how tiny the hole is, it seems reasonable to go ahead anyway. If I need to sell, I will remove the unit and fill in the hole.

How does your TV signal reach your flat ? Does it come through a cable through the exterior wall of the flat ?

How can the HA or the lease, allow a hole for a TV cable, but refuse a hole for AC ?

missile

mark7144 wrote: »

missile: That's what I'm really hoping, that there might be some sort of penetrations I could piggyback off. Not sure what those would be though.

You will need to look at the outside of your property. E.g. in my property there are penetrations for toilet and boiler overflows and extractor fan vents. Hopefully one of those will be suitable. You may wish to discuss with the AC installer.
WARNING: The terms of your lease / title deeds may prohibit you from fitting anything to the ouside of the property, e.g. mine does. Some residents who chose to ignore this have been told to remove satellite dishes.

If you are on the top floor with access to the roof space you might be able to locate the AC unit in your ceiling.

jjlandlord

giraffe69 wrote: »

I think the word is want not need.

Which is far worse, as it's an admission of selfishness and self-entitlement.
A bit like buying a top-floor flats with large windows then claiming that an absolute right to air-con exists, "because I want".

giraffe69 wrote: »

Who are you to tell people what they will or won't have?

No-one apart from being a neighbour sharing the same planet.

This might be beyond your grasp, but liberty does not include the right to act at the expense of others.

As I said this all bodes very well for the future... not!

propertyman

I am in the same situation as the OP with a westerly aspect that turns the flats into an oven and in the recent weather was often in the upper 90's, late into the evening, if not for a/c.

Even with some of the suggestions a lot of flats which cannot generate a cross breeze because of the layout are hard to bear. Often windows will be on one elevation so the rear of the property is a wall and door into the common parts so air is simply heated and heated with no where to go- no cross breeze. Often the habitable rooms are on the same elevation so there is no room to seek shade in, and in many of the glass wall blocks in London, air con and comfort cooling is often standard and has bee for some yeas ( and I am not talking just about the high end)- sorry JJ!

Alerting the wall which is not yours is going to result in costs to make good so it's a non starter, and the HA will do the work not you and cost you a large sum.

Cutting a hole in a pane for the outflow or cutting out a pane and replacing with a mesh and shaping the exhaust to fit the hole is the best idea. And when you move it's easy to reglaze.

mark7144

propertyman wrote: »

Cutting a hole in a pane for the outflow or cutting out a pane and replacing with a mesh and shaping the exhaust to fit the hole is the best idea. And when you move it's easy to reglaze.

I don't have a clue what you are referring to. Can you explain as if I'm a 5-year-old?