COMMERCIAL MORTGAGE..firebird finance,anyone know them?

Benwilliams_2

I think some of the names they used were,
Gary Lewis
Tony Lawrence
Jennifer Shaw

Benwilliams_2

So now that we find this company who don't tell us who the mortgage lender is after we have applied as you say "you would otherwise go direct" to me sounds like total nonsense as all other mortgage brokers tell you who its with.
You can't go direct and by pass the broker as those offers are for brokers only and if you go direct (not often possible) it will cost you more than using the broker.

So my question is are you either something to do with these crooks at Firebird or a mortgage crook yourself!

If you can explain clearly and accurately how your case for NOT disclosing the lender actually is a valid one then I would take back the comments above but I clearly now believe if a broker wont tell you who the lender is then its a scam!

Benwilliams_2

This is the offices they were based at

lentabusinesscentres.co.uk/office-space-watford-herts-business-centres

tel: 01923 650452

cp house watford

howdowetracefirebird

dennisgeorge wrote: »

You won't get anything out of these crooks - they did a runner on Sunday 15 September - how many of you are out of pocket - perhaps we should all get together on this? I've reported them to Action Fraud, FSA (even though they are not FSA regulated it is worth notifying them) and am awaiting a call back from OFT / Trading Standards. I am also trying to track down any personal details for them - home addresses etc and if I get these I will publish them for all to take action as they wish

yes we are out of pocket we have recieved a letter today saying they are placed inot administration after a previous telephone conversation explaining Tony Lawrence had collappsed. i do think this could be a scam but how do we investigate it??? who did you contact how many of us are there out there i presume quite alot?

TEARINGHAIROUT

I have just spoken to a good friend of mine who was told yesterday that they would not be getting any money as Firebird Finance have disappeared!! She unfortunately is too upset and stressed to do anything about this i.e. joining a forum etc but I said I would let you all know that there are other people out here who have been diddled.

They paid Firebird Finance £2,500 for which they have now lost and were not in a position to lose this sort of money.

I will act on their behalf if you needed more people to find these CROOKS!!!! I am very upset for my friends because they both work so hard and do not deserve this sort of treatment.

Please let me know what I can do, if anything to help. I will be doing some research myself and if I find anything I will post it on here.

dennisgeorge

@ BenWilliams - yes those are the three names I knew of too but I did begin to wonder if they were all the same person as they only ever had the one email address and sometimes they wrote in the first person and sometimes the third.

I was told at 10 to 3 one day that Tony Lawrence had been taken to hospital - funny that when I had asked for an answer to a question by 3 o'clock. Have to admit I did phone another organisation in the same building and ask if they were there and I did speak to the main reception and they confirmed that an ambulance had been that day but I still wasn't totally convinced.

I have lost £1,285 direct to them, £480 in legal fees and a further £150 in admin fees to another agent who introduced me.

I have now too lost my property so now have no home and no business.

But I will track these cheating ******** down!

As my previous post, I have reported to Action Fraud (online form) and the FSA as although they are not regulated they do like to know. Not heard anything back from Action Fraud yet apart from the automatic acknowledgement.

I am now going to contact the managing agents for CP House and see if they will disclose any details.

dennisgeorge

Have now sent an email to cph@lentaspace.co.uk asking if they are able to help with any details or information. Maybe if we all sent similar requests they might part with something?

howdowetracefirebird

i spoke to cph today they informed me an ambulance did turn up and took him to the nearest hospital perhaps someone could call inot the hospital and see if he is indeed there or has been there? how do we get together i will be reporting this to action fraud tomorrow they will not accept telephone referals they must be online. all the details are here type soca into google and in top right hand corner go to contact sars they will talk you through if you call them or are not familiar with internet and finding correct forms

dennisgeorge

I had a letter today, via my introducing broker, all sorts of tales of woe about how they couldn't possibly carry on without Tony and how they couldn't replace him. So they have allegedly called in the Administrators - if they have then said Administrators should contact all of us to inform of their appointment. I have also asked my introducing broker to write to them and ask that they provide details of all lenders to clients - I doubt that we will get any response but at least I've tried! I've worked in finance (not mortgages or loans) all of my life and have dealt with many administrations and have never known of someone clearing their offices and then calling in administrators - sounds like yet another one of their b***s*** excuses.

I've just noticed that there is a note by the "welcome" up above this box that says about private messages so maybe we can get in touch via this method - happy to give out my contact details via a private message if I can work out how to contact other people!

Firebirdscamhunter

We have been caught with 2 clients for a lot of money. I have some information which I am about to provide to the police. This blatant, on Sunday I received an email saying final information had been supplied and we expect a decision Monday from the "Lender"
I am going to persue this rigorously, this is a partnership and they are personally responsible, the bank account is a husband and wife team and I have evidence which will be damning. I rang the hospital and there was a John Lawrence about to be discharged.
I can bring this to a head and happy for people to email there private details and will respond accordingly.