Facing possible dismissal.

MissSarah1972

sniggings wrote: »

so you can make a mistake but I can't, grow up.

you really made a typo? Ok LOL

sniggings

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

you really made a typo? Ok LOL

a typo is not adding an extra letter but missing one out or swapping the correct letter for the incorrect one.

You made a mistake not a typo, no big deal but if you are going to correct me it's best to get it right yourself first.

I know the difference between your and you're but made a mistake, are you really that sad you have to pick up on stuff like this.

MissSarah1972

SMD+AD wrote: »

In am facing possible dismissal and am my wits end. The basics are that some money went missing at my place of work and there are four people that could have taken the money, one being me. The others actually had a greater chance of stealing it because they handled it as part of their job, I didn't. There is no evidence of me taking the money, its all suspicion.

If I am sacked I will be going for unfair dismissal at an Industrial Tribunal, however this can take anything up to six months. In that time I will have no income and there is a family to keep including a mortgage to pay.

My questions are:
1> having been sacked for gross misconduct will I be able to claim job seekers allowance?
2> does being sacked in that way constitute voluntary unemployment?

The reasons for these questions is I have a loss of income insurance that pays my major bills if I become involuntarily unemployed and claim jsa.

Any help/advise would be welcome.

p.s. I have worked for the company for 14 years in two terms, the first for 6 years then I left for 6 weeks and have been back for 8 years, worked hard and done everything asked of me including handling money.

There is no evidence against me because I didn't steal the money.

They can not sack you because they think you have stolen the money they have to have proof. I'd ask them to get the police in if they think it's you.

I have been in a situation where I worked with someone who did steal over £300k and they worked out it was her as they did the work to get to the point where they knew it was this person. They called the police and she was visited by them and arrested.

MissSarah1972

sniggings wrote: »

a typo is not adding an extra letter but missing one out or swapping the correct letter for the incorrect one.

You made a mistake not a typo, no big deal but if you are going to correct me it's best to get it right yourself first.

I know the difference between your and you're but made a mistake, are you really that sad you have to pick up on stuff like this.

Phone on predictive text wrote your then I added 're just like you writing your ok!!!


Yeah I am sad like you who wishes me not to have a job. Nasty piece of work.

roywill

I'm sorry to hear your situation. You may also need to consider your next job and future. Having a last employer sacking you for gross dismissal will make it harder to find your next job. Have you considered finding another job quick, and then negotiating a resignation with a reference and no blemish on your record? Do you have a union to get free advice and legal representation?

sniggings

Uncertain wrote: »

Oh for heaven's sake you can even get that right!

You wrote "Judge - your a fool"

It should be "you are a fool" or, if you want to use a contraction, "you're a fool".

You would do well to remember that it is sometimes better to remain silent and be though a fool than to open your mouth and remover all doubt!

too late we have already covered this or can't you see or in too big a rush to post.

MissSarah1972

roywill wrote: »

I'm sorry to hear your situation. You may also need to consider your next job and future. Having a last employer sacking you for gross dismissal will make it harder to find your next job. Have you considered finding another job quick, and then negotiating a resignation with a reference and no blemish on your record? Do you have a union to get free advice and legal representation?

Why should the OP leave? Stand your ground if you are 100% not guilty!!!

Leaving makes you look guilty

marybelle01

sniggings wrote: »

wrong, you can't have a reasonable belief that someone stole something and at the same time sack 3 others for the same thing.

Not wrong at all. The legal precedent is that if you cannot prove which one of four did it then you must dismiss all four or none - you cannot sack just one or that would definitely be unfair dismissal.

MissSarah1972

marybelle01 wrote: »

Not wrong at all. The legal precedent is that if you cannot prove which one of four did it then you must dismiss all four or none - you cannot sack just one or that would definitely be unfair dismissal.

Surely as the OP has said 'The others actually had a greater chance of stealing it because they handled it as part of their job' the OP couldn't have taken it unless one of the other 3 gave it to them?

My old firm could have just sacked all 7 of us and did no investigation but they did as they had to find out where the £ went and found it was the accounts manager.

marybelle01

sniggings wrote: »

No, I'm not confusing anything.

What is the employer basing his belief on? not that the person took it but that the money has gone so someone has took it!

To go from someone has taken the money, to believing that the OP has taken the money is not reasonable, that belief is based on nothing.

If it goes to court I can see the argument being.

Judge- why did you sack this person

Employer- because I had a reasonable belief that he had taken some money.

Judge- was he the only one with access to the money

Employer- no

Judge- So what is your belief that this person standing before me took the money

Employer- I don't have any so sacked them all.

Judge- your a fool.

You have clearly never set foot in a tribunal. Nor any other court of law, if this is how you think they are conducted.