Parking ticket

dseventy

Hi all

Just a little advice.

I was visiting a customer site last week and when I came back I had a parking ticket from "TPS Parking Solutions".

Normally I would never pay the fine as I am aware of these scams, but this was on a customers site and for the sake of £30 I was going to pay so as not to have any friction with the customer.

Anyway, looked at the ticket and one letter of my reg plate is wrong. When I type my reg into the website, it can't find anything, when I type in the reg as on the ticket, its there.

Does this mean that I can safely put it in the bin?

D70

ManxRed

You could anyway.

I doubt very much whether your customer would be in any way involved in the processing of these tickets, it is all handled by TPC, including pocketing the ill-gotten gains from the ticket.

Even so, if they've got your reg wrong, and don't have any photo evidence with which to correct their error, then I suspect they will be applying for someone else's details from the DVLA and will be pestering them with letters instead. Let's hope its a barrister or a judge or something!

dseventy

Photeographic evidence, never thought of that, do these people routinely take photos?

D70

pogofish

dseventy wrote: »

Photeographic evidence, never thought of that, do these people routinely take photos?

D70

Wouldn't matter if they did - Photo "evidence" has no meaning in context of private parking and even in legit enforcement it is the very bottom of the evidential chain.

Ignore the scammers - tons of threads about TPS here and the letter chain is in the forum sticky, so just tick them off till they give-up.

dseventy

pogofish wrote: »

Wouldn't matter if they did - Photo "evidence" has no meaning in context of private parking and even in legit enforcement it is the very bottom of the evidential chain.

Ignore the scammers - tons of threads about TPS here and the letter chain is in the forum sticky, so just tick them off till they give-up.

The problem I have its a lease car. So the lease company will get the letters I suspect, and they probably charge to pass it to me.......

Not sure what to do now.

D70

ManxRed

pogofish wrote: »

Wouldn't matter if they did - Photo "evidence" has no meaning in context of private parking and even in legit enforcement it is the very bottom of the evidential chain.

Ignore the scammers - tons of threads about TPS here and the letter chain is in the forum sticky, so just tick them off till they give-up.

We weren't discussing photo evidence in that context, but point taken.

Ah. The lease car scenario. That leaves you in a slight dilemma.

Normally you'd appeal - which is pointless in every regard EXCEPT it gives the PPC the green light to harass you instead of the Registered Keeper. This makes sense for the leased vehicle scenario.

However it would alert the PPC to the error in their current ID of the vehicle.

Hmmmmm... need to think about this one, unless others have some immediate ideas.

Stephen_Leak

You do need to deal with the car hire/leasing company. Some are fully aware of private parking tickets. Unfortunately, some pay the charge and then pass on the charge plus an administration charge to the driver.

Car hire/leasing contract T&Cs usually have a clause about the driver being responsible for fines or penalties. That's for legally enforceable fines or penalties from councils, police, train operators and Transport for London. But this is a speculative invoice from a private company. If they want to pay it, advise them as above. If they pay it, that's their problem. If they’ve taken the money from your account, ask for it back, or else you’ll sue them for breach of their own contract.

If you need to, also advise them of this article from Fleet News ...

http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/2009...s-urged/30698/

... and the British Vehicle Rental & Leasing Association (BVRLA) guidelines on private parking tickets ...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bvrla+private+parking.

If this doesn't have the desired effect, then use the private ticketing company's greed against them. Write to them, so that they then write to you. Then you can ignore them.

dseventy

Thanks for the advice thus far.

This all depends on whether they routinely take photo evidence. Any experience of this from anyone?

D70

HardWorker2010_2

D70

I agree with Stephen.

In your position I'd want to avoid any hassle with the lease company and having to possibly argue with them for any refund.

I'd contact the PPC, saying you reject their request for payment. Don't admit to driving or give them any more info than is necessary. All you need to do is divert them from getting the vehicle details from the DVLA and them then thinking it would be easy to get money out of the lease company.

They will almost certainly send you a standard 'appeal rejected' letter and continue with the letter chain. Ignore them from that point on.

Stephen_Leak

dseventy wrote: »

Thanks for the advice thus far.

This all depends on whether they routinely take photo evidence. Any experience of this from anyone?

D70

Private ticketing companies sometimes send photos or images from their cameras. It's an easy way to make their so-called "evidence" look more convincing. It surprises me how victims assume that they can use it to identify the driver, as if they also have a database of photographs of everyone in the world.

It wouldn't hurt to try the car hire/leasing firm first. For all we know, they may be one of the good ones. If not, we do have a Plan B.

dseventy

HardWorker2010 wrote: »

D70

I agree with Stephen.

In your position I'd want to avoid any hassle with the lease company and having to possibly argue with them for any refund.

I'd contact the PPC, saying you reject their request for payment. Don't admit to driving or give them any more info than is necessary. All you need to do is divert them from getting the vehicle details from the DVLA and them then thinking it would be easy to get money out of the lease company.

They will almost certainly send you a standard 'appeal rejected' letter and continue with the letter chain. Ignore them from that point on.

Thanks that sounds like the way forward.

In an ironic twist of fate, the car finished its lease at the end of last month and they rang me and offered the car to buy today. I accepted as its for my son.

Does this change anything? If they ask the DVLA for the registered keepers details after 30 days it will then be mine? Thus getting around the lease company thing?

Am I making it too complicated?

And all of this assumes they have a photo of the car!!!!

D70