Argos - Returns policy

shaun_from_Africa

malchish wrote: »

Both judges and Ombudsman listen to recordings. It is admissible evidence

Well, it looks like the UK government has it wrong as well.
www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN05249.pdf

This note provides background information about the prohibition on using intercept evidence in terrorism trials. Subject to a limited number of exceptions, evidence from intercepted communications or any related communications data is inadmissible in legal proceedings under provisions currently set out in section 17 of the [FONT=Arial,Arial][FONT=Arial,Arial]Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000. [/FONT][/FONT]

And as I explained earlier, those "limited number of exceptions" are:
Cases involving terrorism,
Certain immigration cases,
Civil proceedings related to illegal tapping of phones,
Court cases related to warrants for phone tapping.

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neilmcl

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

Well, it looks like the UK government has it wrong as well.
www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN05249.pdf



And as I explained earlier, those "limited number of exceptions" are:
Cases involving terrorism,
Certain immigration cases,
Civil proceedings related to illegal tapping of phones,
Court cases related to warrants for phone tapping.

Not wanting to muddy the waters here, or in fact give any credibility to what a certain poster has been saying, but there is a noted difference between "communication intercepts" and the recording of your own telephone conversation with someone.

shaun_from_Africa

The definition of a communications intercept covers

(2)For the purposes of this Act, but subject to the following provisions of this section, a person intercepts a communication in the course of its transmission by means of a telecommunication system if, and only if, he—
(a)so modifies or interferes with the system, or its operation,

(b)so monitors transmissions made by means of the system, or

(c)so monitors transmissions made by wireless telegraphy to or from apparatus comprised in the system

(7)For the purposes of this section the times while a communication is being transmitted by means of a telecommunication system shall be taken to include any time when the system by means of which the communication is being, or has been, transmitted is used for storing it in a manner that enables the intended recipient to collect it or otherwise to have access to it.

As I stated earlier, this is also confirmed by Oftel, who also refer to RIPA legislation when it comes to the legality of recording and using the recordings of telephone calls.

As with most legislation, why use simple words when far more complex ones can be used.

flywaspmetaphor

not that it's relevant any more but Argos replaced the TV the next time I went in...

Esqui

How did a thread on Argos become one on terrorism laws?

This place is strange!