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Coalition Tories say Brits are all lazy sods

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  • torontoboy45
    torontoboy45 Posts: 1,064 Forumite
    Certainly won't be bankers or BTL'ers.

    It will be the people who have been reckless with the debt given to them by the big business, and it's the peoples fault, nothing to do with the big business. Some tories are admitidley so pro capitalism and business they would be quite happy deregulating the whole of the business sector so that profit rules everything.

    A lot of policies are currently going this way, focusing on the business and profits and less on the people at the other end, the families with kids to feed etc. It's happening all over Europe....just look at how Greece is being railroaded into poverty to keep things going.

    It's the same in every party though. You always have those with their hard line beliefs. Look at labour with Harman and "equality"....

    Sometimes the little man becomes the enemy, and it becomes a race to the bottom.
    I've always viewed the hard right with the same distaste as the hard left; both being utterly and spookily convinced that theirs is the true faith and both ultimate cynics - knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing.

    but while labour has (more or less) booted their lunatics into the long grass the cons still have their fair share of free-market obsessives who would hand over education, health et al to the profiteers.

    still, as gen alludes to: we're still in the silly season. it will pass.
  • Those of us who have worked in the Far East know that these nationalities work far, far, harder than the average Brit. And at generally low wages/benefits. Little point in debating what is an incontrovertible fact.
  • Sir_Humphrey
    Sir_Humphrey Posts: 1,978 Forumite
    Professional politicians should know how this sort of stuff is going to get quoted.

    It happens to all sides in politics.
    Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists of choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable. J. K. Galbraith
  • Wookster
    Wookster Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    but while labour has (more or less) booted their lunatics into the long grass the cons still have their fair share of free-market obsessives who would hand over education, health et al to the profiteers.

    What is the problem with people running public services for a profit if that delivers better service more cost effectively than the state does?

    I have yet to hear a good reason why this is problematic!
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »

    Robert Peston is on holiday.

    We can always hope he forgets to come back :eek:
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    Wookster wrote: »
    What is the problem with people running public services for a profit if that delivers better service more cost effectively than the state does?

    There is no problem, other than it never seems to happen.
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • Wookster
    Wookster Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    purch wrote: »
    There is no problem, other than it never seems to happen.

    I'm really interested to see what happens with Circle and the hospital they have taken over.

    I'd say there have been few other times when private sector services have been given the opportunity.
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    Wookster wrote: »
    What is the problem with people running public services for a profit if that delivers better service more cost effectively than the state does?
    Does it ever?

    The more usual result seems to be poorer service and higher cost.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • A._Badger
    A._Badger Posts: 5,881 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    pqrdef wrote: »
    Does it ever?

    The more usual result seems to be poorer service and higher cost.

    Old enough to recall Post Office Telephones, are you?

    Granted, there have been some awful privatisations, but there are some woefully poor memories about life under the likes of British Rail, British Leyland, the nationalised docks and British Road services.
  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    Ever thought they could actually be right? ( generally)
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