Coalition Tories say Brits are all lazy sods

Generali

Sir_Humphrey wrote: »

Professional politicians should know how this sort of stuff is going to get quoted.

It happens to all sides in politics.

You're right of course but it is a bit of a shame.

Politicians writing books rather than soundbites could perhaps lead to a rather more thoughtful approach to policy. At the very least it keeps them busy and so out of trouble.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

grizzly1911 wrote: »

Does anyone know if these MPs have actually worked productively themselves. Have they worked and lived in reality?

Of course not.

If they had, they wouldn't be writing such tripe.....


Chris Skidmore - Professional politician. Has never held a real job
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Skidmore

Elizabeth Truss - Worked briefly in sales before heading into the Think Tank world and then becoming a professional politician.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Truss

Dominic Raab - Oxbridge Educated lawyer. Straight into the civil service after a brief stint at a private law firm after Uni. Then handed a very safe Tory seat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Raab

Priti Patel - Professional politician, has never held a real job, working exclusively in politics or lobbying since leaving Uni.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priti_Patel

Kwasi Kwarteng - Worked as an analyst in financial services, the industry that just had to be bailed out by the "lazy" British workers to the tune of hundreds of billions of pounds. Then handed a safe Tory seat.
http://en.wikipedia..../Kwasi_Kwarteng

purch

A._Badger wrote: »

British Leyland

They certainly went from strength to strength after privatisation :eek:

British Rail

Those invisible super-fast trains on the West Coast mainline are a huge improvement.......and the cost to the Tax payer of not getting them is only loose change :eek:

grizzly1911

Wookster wrote: »

I'm really interested to see what happens with Circle and the hospital they have taken over.

I'd say there have been few other times when private sector services have been given the opportunity.

Politically it cannot fail, whatever actually happens, it will be "proven" to have worked.

BobQ

KrytenIceCubeHead wrote: »

According to Tory MPs.

So work harder you lot.

Note : does not apply to ex-pats.

Well 3 of the 4 MPs concerned appear not to have done any real work and have ploughed their furrow in politics and campaigning. None of them have manufactured anything in their lives. So I guess they are a fine group to lecture us all.

annie1975_2

KrytenIceCubeHead wrote: »

According to Tory MPs.

So work harder you lot.

Note : does not apply to ex-pats.

Yes work harder so they can take more tax and insurance off you, and fill the coffers to cover their expenses and ridiculous wages.

BobQ

Privatisation has worked but privatising natural monopolies has been an abject failure.

I remember British Rail, it was frequently late and not very clean and the commuter services were jam packed. The privatised version costs, has nicer staff but otherwise has all the same traits. BR was not the joke of Europe, like the present system. And it was so simple to buy a ticket without all the complexities of the current one.

BT I agree has been a success of sorts, but I do not use it.

A._Badger

BobQ wrote: »

Well 3 of the 4 MPs concerned appear not to have done any real work and have ploughed their furrow in politics and campaigning. None of them have manufactured anything in their lives. So I guess they are a fine group to lecture us all.

You're hardly being fair. That probably applies to three out of four of all MPs, particularly the modern variety, which appears to swan out of one of our universities with an inalienable belief that s/he/it knows all the answers, based on absolutely nothing but self-belief carried on a foetid tide of political theory.

A._Badger

BobQ wrote: »

Privatisation has worked but privatising natural monopolies has been an abject failure.

I remember British Rail, it was frequently late and not very clean and the commuter services were jam packed. The privatised version costs, has nicer staff but otherwise has all the same traits. BR was not the joke of Europe, like the present system. And it was so simple to buy a ticket without all the complexities of the current one.

BT I agree has been a success of sorts, but I do not use it.

I disagree. British Rail was a national tragedy. And it most certainly was a joke in Europe in the 1960s and '70s. Its only excuse was that, unlike much of the continentals' systems, it hadn't been totally destroyed during the war and rebuilt with other people's money.

BobQ

A._Badger wrote: »

You're hardly being fair. That probably applies to three out of four of all MPs, particularly the modern variety, which appears to swan out of one of our universities with an inalienable belief that s/he/it knows all the answers, based on absolutely nothing but self-belief carried on a foetid tide of political theory.

I was not intending to be fair to politicians (sorry!). Yes politicians today seem to have this kind of career and I do not think it does the nation any good. We used to have MPs that once had a real job and knew how the rest of us lived, these are somewhat rare these days. Those that had real jobs seem few and far between: Mike Hancock, Bob Stewart, Harriet Harman,Vince Cable, Sarah Walloston, Anne Milton