DLA - need some clarification please.

mazza111

krisskross wrote: »

What is wrong with frozen veg that only need cooking in a microwave? They are often cheaper than fresh and no waste, just cook the exact amount you need.

Why are you so anxious to bring up every obstacle you can think of rather than look for ways round them?

I don't like frozen veg, it tastes nothing like fresh, why would I eat something I don't like?

I am not anxious to bring up every obstacle. I'm saying it how it is. I prepare and cook my daughter's dinner for her. She can't. Isn't that getting round the problem? The only way she can cook a main meal is if it's a ready meal she puts in the microwave. LRC also helps with things like bathing, not just meals.

nannytone_2

krisskross wrote: »

What is wrong with frozen veg that only need cooking in a microwave? They are often cheaper than fresh and no waste, just cook the exact amount you need.

Why are you so anxious to bring up every obstacle you can think of rather than look for ways round them?

not all disabilities are physical.

i dont like frozen veg personally.... but even if i did, i would seriosly struggle to tell one bag of frozen 'stuff' from another bag of frozen 'stuff'.

it caused much hilarity when i troed to make a sandwich and opened pineapple instead of tuna .... the tins are the same size, so for me, its a fairly easy mistake to make!

dread to think what terrible concoctions i could be eating if i didnt have someone to keep an eue on what i was doing!

clemmatis

gregbythesea wrote: »

LRC = not being able to cook a meal using a traditional cooker and fresh ingredients.

Who today actually does that?

Most use a microwave.

That's those on LRC that should be kicked off for a start.

Trolling again?

mazza111

Sorry Nannytone I found your post funny. Although I know it's not, I couldn't help a little smirk. It must be so difficult for you and other partially sighted people.

LRC is not just about preparing or making a meal though, it can also be for help bathing, which is stated in my daughter's letter. HRC is usually only awarded if more care is needed during the day or night care is needed.

My post was actually in response to Gregbythesea's question of "Who actually does that?"

LRC = not being able to cook a meal using a traditional cooker and fresh ingredients.

Who today actually does that?

Most use a microwave.

That's those on LRC that should be kicked off for a start.

rogerblack

gregbythesea wrote: »

You can still use a microwave to cook a normal dinner. We do, we steam almost everything plus it has the ability to brown as well.

They are safe, cheap to use and you have no need to buy in ready meals.

The cooking test is _NOT_ABOUT_COOKING_.
To quote the Lords 'The first is that its purpose is not to ascertain whether the applicant can survive, or enjoy a reasonable diet, without assistance. It is a notional test, a thought-experiment, to calibrate the severity of the disability. It does not matter whether the applicant actually needs to cook.'

This is why the result of finding that someone cannot cook is not providing them with appropriate means of nutrition, or why the result of finding that someone needs continuous supervision is not giving them that supervision.

The amounts granted in DLA are not closely related to the needs found.

nannytone_2

im used to making people laugh with the things that i do .... i laugh myself!

dont start me on bathing .... i cant tell shampoo from condition ... deoderant from hairspray ....

sticky armpits arent pleasant lol

back to the frozen microwave meals though ....

i as well as not being able to see what i am trying to cook ... i cant read the cooking instructions, or the controls on the microwave ...

does that mean i should only eat cold, raw food?

i know im posting on a forum, but its with the help of specialised software.

my advisor at the job centre sent me on a 'personal empowerment' course. i thought it was a waste of time. i dont lack confidence and i'm certainly not shy when it comes to speaking my mind. there was a lot of talk about 'inclusion'

non disabled people don't seem to realise ( and why should they) disabled people only want to be able to do the same things as everyone else. a level playing field.

a non disabled person doesnt have to think about 'how' they are going to prepare whatever they want to eat... they just do it. so why should a disabled person have to exist on microwave meals?

i am registered blind ( since 1996) but have never had normal vision .... it probably bothers me less than it does thise close to me because i dont know what i'm 'missing'.
to be honest, it had never occured to me, that not every dosabled person is as adaptable as i am. i have no physical disabilities and i dont libe with pain... i cant begin to imagine how awful that must be.
and on tip of living with the pain ... to be told to live on almost inedible food ( as some posters have suggested) and to be told to be grateful for it .... its beyond insensitive!

until a year ago, i was in a long term relationship. i had no dealings with social services as i was supported by my partner and family.
in the past year i have realised how much disparity there is.
there are far more people with physical disabilities than sensory ones ( in my area anyway)

i am very lucky in as much as i have a fantastic social worker ( who is blind himself) and i have funding for a PA for 25 hours a week, which is invaluable to me.

but physically disabled people in my are are having their funding cut. a woman i know who has severe arthritis, fybromyalgia and MS, has had her funding cut to 8 hours a week!

i feel terrible that im being funded for 'shopping trips' and things that make my life more 'pleasureable' when others are dacing cuts to budgets that make their lives tolerable.

my social worker says that the sensory impairment team has a surplass in its budget. my friend who is struggling tells me not to feel bad that i get enough to make my life pleasurable.

sorry for going off on a tangent. i'm very grateful that i can 'live' and not just exist.

but that is the reality of many disabled people....
and then to be told to live on microwave meals .......

rogerblack

Some context.
The week before last, I was 'OK'.
I was on top of the washing up, I had been able to have a bath, I'd picked a few raspberries in the garden, and managed to post a form.

Not, you understand do impossible things like get my driving licence, or get up the energy to do anything social outside the house.
The last time I went out without having to was now most of a year ago - it tires me out often dangerously.

Then, on monday, after realising my submission to the tribunal hasn't been received, I spent 5 or 6 hours, getting increasingly exhausted going through the paperwork, and legal documentation to prepare for the tribunal next week. I would normally try to pace myself, and do this gradually.

I got about half way, then collapsed exhausted.

Specific costs?
Well, since then I've been utterly, utterly tired and incapable of much except sitting on the sofa not thinking much.
I wobble when I try to do anything, and my head feels packed with cotton wool. If I try to do stuff, I do not improve.
I had the shopping delivery booked for tuesday, and I have only just managed to put some of it away.
The ice-cream is a total write-off, clearly, so that's 7 quid there.
I rarely eat it, it's a treat.
The fruit is fine, but the meat I bought is unfortunately going to have to go in the bin.
That's another tenner. (I had intended to make it up into curries, and freeze).
Add 50p for a burger I was trying to defrost in the microwave, that instead burned to a crisp.

mazza111

Nannytone - I applaud you. You have not only posted something very insightful about blindness and being partially sighted, but also understand about what people with physical disabilities are going through. :T

I used to be a sheltered housing officer, and worked with a variety of people with varying disabilities, from blindness, to MH issues, to physical disabilities in a very mixed age group, from 18 - 90. So do have a very good idea of people's needs even if I don't have those needs myself, yes i have one or two problems, I'm not bad enough to be classed as disabled thankfully.

I just don't think frozen veg tastes like fresh. I have tried to cook using my microwave, I didn't have much success with it in all honesty. I remember my old dad cooking shortbread in his when they first came out years ago, he managed to set the kitchen on fire with the wrong setting :rotfl:

I just think the post that people don't cook from scratch was shocking tbh. I thought that people using the microwave were in the minority, not people who cook from scratch. I'm not critisising people for cooking with microwave btw, if they can make it work, good on them. I just don't think it's right to expect people with disabilities to do this because they can't use a cooker or peel veg.

mazza111

Just out of curiosity to the microwave users this way. Could you for instance cook a roast or a stew in the microwave? I'm not having a go, I'm genuinely interested. If I eventually get away for a few days this year,I'll probably batch cook before I go so the dd won't starve while I'm away, or the DS for that matter He can cook eggy bread and that's about it

nannytone_2

im just sick of non disabled people thinking that its ok for a disabled person to expect less from lige because they are disabled.

why should we want less because we are disabled?

and why should we tolerate less from life?
we havent 'chosen' our disabilities ... its just what has gappened to us. should u claim against my parents for giving me an heridetitory ( recessive... so they werent aware of the problem) condition?

there are positives. my eldest grandson is 8. his little brother contracted viral encephalitis at 18 months. he was left severely physically disabled ( sadly died at the age of 3). i also have a mixed race grandson.
my eldest grandbaby has a nixed race cousin, a severley disabled sibling and a sensory impaired grandparent. and boy, has he benefitted! he is an 8 year old boy that doesnt see any difference! they are all people he has known and lobed and most importantly, accepted

my son in law was appropriately concerned about leaving the kids with me.
but my daughter (who obviously grew up with me) knew i wouldnt take risks with the kiddies. now ahes having a new baby... a babt girl... our babies are the way forward ... they have no prejudice,,,, its all normal to them.

my disabled grandbaby went to a 'noormal' nursery .... and was accepted by all the kiddies there.

it seems that disdabled people are included... apart from when it comes to mony.

i get 1k a month to fund 'care'
and thats double what i have to live on myself!

i dont know what point im trying to make lol.
the whole system is skewed by people playing the 'disability' card.

the only people that suffer are the genuinely disabled