The Zero Hour Contract

themull1

God help them trying to claim tax credits!

grizzly1911

There are other roles this could no doubt be applied to. Fire and rescue services, police, ambulance people. Perhaps they could take their vehicle home with them and just sit waiting by the phone, only being paid when called. Of course they will have to get back from walking the dog before they can pop out.

Another group could perhaps be MPs and Cabinet Ministers, just call them up before a meeting or press conference.

Forces staff even.


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olly300

grizzly1911 wrote: »

There are other roles this could no doubt be applied to. Fire and rescue services, police, ambulance people. Perhaps they could take their vehicle home with them and just sit waiting by the phone, only being paid when called. Of course they will have to get back from walking the dog before they can pop out.

Another group could perhaps be MPs and Cabinet Ministers, just call them up before a meeting or press conference.

Forces staff even.

MPs and Cabinet Ministers don't count as they have fixed term contracts and get a fixed salary while they are in those jobs. Even if they don't turn up they get paid.

The others may count if they are reservists or part-timers if the definition is wide enough but they are allowed other jobs, so don't fit into fit into the proper definition. Some are even allowed to do these other jobs while waiting to be called out to rescue people.

If you work at a large well-known department store on a zero hour contract or some well-known fast food restaurants you aren't allowed to work at other places. After all your knowledge of things like all retailers tend to use the same suppliers, the stock room is a mess and your burger tossing skills are confidential information......

CLAPTON

grizzly1911 wrote: »

There are other roles this could no doubt be applied to. Fire and rescue services, police, ambulance people. Perhaps they could take their vehicle home with them and just sit waiting by the phone, only being paid when called. Of course they will have to get back from walking the dog before they can pop out.

Another group could perhaps be MPs and Cabinet Ministers, just call them up before a meeting or press conference.

Forces staff even.


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you might like to read about 'retained fireman'

although not paid Mountain Rescue Services and Lifeboat Rescue are also services without contracted hours


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retained_firefighter

ash28

CLAPTON wrote: »

you might like to read about 'retained fireman'

although not paid Mountain Rescue Services and Lifeboat Rescue are also services without contracted hours


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retained_firefighter

One of neighbours is a retained fireman (we're rural with a very small firestation on the edge of the village), he has to live and/or work within 5 minutes of the station - he does both. He gets paid an annual retainer, gets paid for all training and gets paid for all call outs.

It's a little different to a typical zero hours contract as he gets paid an annual retainer. He is still training and gets around £2.5k retainer (which will increase to just over £4k + he gets paid around £9ph if he is called out + he gets a disturbance allowance if he is called out. And he gets paid to train and he gets paid to help maintain the equipment.

StevieJ

grizzly1911 wrote: »

Forces staff even.


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You mean like this?

The Territorial Army is set to double in size while the number of regular British troops is cut as part of the government's radical overhaul of the armed forces.

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/869617-army-reservists-to-replace-regulars-as-territorial-army-doubles-in-size

StevieJ

ash28 wrote: »

It's a little different to a typical zero hours contract as he gets paid an annual retainer. He is still training and gets around £2.5k retainer (which will increase to just over £4k + he gets paid around £9ph if he is called out + he gets a disturbance allowance if he is called out. And he gets paid to train and he gets paid to help maintain the equipment.

What happens if there is a fire when he is doing his proper job?

olly300

StevieJ wrote: »

What happens if there is a fire when he is doing his proper job?

Then he has to leave his proper job to attend the fire or whatever the emergency is.

It's the same with lots of the rescue services i.e. lifeboat, mountain and cave that use part-timers and volunteers.

The likes of the companies that use the proper 0 hours contracts don't allow their workers to do these things as they are doing other "employment" even if it's unpaid and voluntary.

olly300

themull1 wrote: »

God help them trying to claim tax credits!

IDS (I always want to write IBS) stated on Newsnight that the benefits system will change to be more responsive when questioned about it.

According to him being more responsive is having to wait 2 months to get the money to pay your bills and eat.

StevieJ

olly300 wrote: »

IDS (I always want to write IBS) stated on Newsnight that the benefits system will change to be more responsive when questioned about it.

According to him being more responsive is having to wait 2 months to get the money to pay your bills and eat.

Typical of a public sector worker