Landlord Scum!

Eskimo12345

We had a similar thing happen six months ago, myself and two mates - we were all 24, combined income over £100k, great references - were due to move into a house at £800pcm. We'd paid our deposit and fees to the estate agent a week before and the landlord was fine with it. Two days before we were due to move in the landlord cancelled everything as apparently he didn't want three people living in the three bedroom house.

We had a day and a half to find a new place before our old tenancy ended. Thankfully we did but I still wish a lot of bad things to happen to him.

The resulting mess cost each of us close to £200.

southsea13

Hi Jaype,

I still wouldn`t move out. At the end of the day, so long as the landlord is receiving money, you`re pretty safe for the short term. If the landlord has got new people coming in, well, that`s too bad for them, and they`ll have to make alternative arrangements - think about yourselves in this matter because nobody else is going to (with the exception of some `aid` groups).

Write to your current landlord outlining the situation. If he or she doesn`t like it, well, that`s life. I`d focus on getting your reference fees back. Apart from that, I`d put this down to experience - and it sounds like you`ve had some pretty nasty ones, I`m afraid - and think about getting another place.

Whatever you do, DON`T MOVE OUT because `the law says...(blah, blah, blah)`.

Best Wishes to you and family :money:
David

PS: I hope this doesn`t offend anyone`s sensibilities!

black-saturn

I think you should stay where you are and put yourselves on the council housing list. You will be a priority case with the 2 small children you have. If you current landlord wants you out he will have to take you to court over it several times as they will give you as much time as you want as you have small children.

The council may offer you temporary accommodation which will be no better than a 1 bedroomed flat but at least you will be nearer to long term housing.

If you leave now and go to live in that flat your friend offered the council will see you as making yourselves intentionally homeless and they will never offer you anywhere.

danm

As sorry as i feel for the OP, i just can believe the rubbish that some people put on here.

If the new tennant that is supposed to be moving into Jaype's current house comes on in a few days with a similar story, are they going to get the same sympathy? It is the sort stuff that people have posted on this thread that perpetuates the problem.

Nor is it Jaype's current landlords fault. All this about, 'keep paying and there's nothing he can do'....why should he be penalised.

I understand that its a dog eat dog world, and ultimately the OP has to do what is right for themsleves and their family, but sometimes the double standards bounded around the forum astounds me.

It would be interesting to see if we did get two posters on the board looking for advise on the same 'conflict' where 'the board' wasn't aware it was related, what the responses would be like.

gl Jaype for whatever you decide

jaype

Cheers. We're not going to upset our current landlord as he has been really decent with everything - and I wouldn't wish what we had on the next tenants, either. At least if we move to our friend's house we can choose our neighbours - wouldn't feel safe on some of the local estates, especially as we have children. We are lucky in that we have some time and some money so can choose what we do.

epoman

southsea13 wrote: »

Don`t move!.....SNIP.......Your present landlord will have to deal with the current situation as best he or she can. That`s business......SNIP.......In the past, we had all kinds of crap coming our way from the landlord when the !!!!!!! decided that he no longer wanted `benefit types` (excuse me, I am disabled and unable to work) .....SNIP.......we decided not to move until we had found somewhere suitable (i.e. somewhere we liked). You may get letters from the landlord / solicitor / court but DO NOT STRESS!!! Our landlord had to wait six months until we found somewhere suitable to live, and - as we were paying rent in full and on time - there was nothing the !!!!!!! could do about it. In fact, the more he went to court (twice), the more he had to pay legal fees etc (seeing him leave in a strop was priceless!!) In the court`s view we were still paying the rent and had done nothing wrong, so if he wanted us to leave it would have to be when we were ABLE to do so. .....SNIP.......I really hate to see avaricious scum feed off the bones of those less `fortunate`(??!!) than themselves. .....SNIP.......
If landlords here don`t like this - "!!!! y`all, all of y`all, and if you don`t like me then blow ya!" (Dr. Dre)

Have a read of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity

'The ethic of reciprocity or "The Golden Rule" is a fundamental moral principle found in virtually all major religions and cultures, which simply means "treat others as you would like to be treated." It is arguably the most essential basis for the modern concept of human rights. Principal philosophers and religious figures have stated it in different ways'

Guy_Montag

jaype wrote: »

Cheers. We're not going to upset our current landlord as he has been really decent with everything - and I wouldn't wish what we had on the next tenants, either. At least if we move to our friend's house we can choose our neighbours - wouldn't feel safe on some of the local estates, especially as we have children. We are lucky in that we have some time and some money so can choose what we do.

Have you asked your current LL if you can stay on in the current place, he may not have new tenants yet. Also you need to get your reference fee back from the LA, if they squirm mention ARLA & trading standards.

EagerLearner

Jaype - I really feel for you - landlords can be unfair, tenants can be unfair, but at the end of the day you did everything right and still got messed about. I don't know if you can contact ARLA or anything? the letting agent MUST give you the fees back as the landlord has pulled out, not you. They can only keep the fees IF you are moving into the flat, which you aren't. See what the letting agent are doing to sort this out and when you will get your fees back if they can't sort it out.

jaype

The letting agent has our fee, but that's because we are currently letting them do so - they have paid out for the references and also have most of the rentals in the area on their books, so having them feeling bad (it's a single shop family run business and they are actually quite reasonable people) and working for us is a good thing... If they don't find something soon they'll be out of pocket so it gives us a small advantage. They have agreed to give iot back to us as and when we give up looking through them.

southsea13

epoman wrote: »

Have a read of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity

'The ethic of reciprocity or "The Golden Rule" is a fundamental moral principle found in virtually all major religions and cultures, which simply means "treat others as you would like to be treated." It is arguably the most essential basis for the modern concept of human rights. Principal philosophers and religious figures have stated it in different ways'

In an ideal world "The Golden Rule" may work, but then the world is far from ideal.
I love the way people run around quoting `philosophers` and `religious figures`. In fact, it was JS Mill who was the staunch proponent of the reciprocity rule in modern times (and man, he was a bit of whacko!) How many people have died as a result of following the drivel that is spouted by major `leaders`? Jesus? Marx? Gandhi? Oh, just a few million, that`s all.
Maybe I`ll start touting myself as a major philosopher or religious figure and see how many schmuks I can get to follow me!!!

Getting back on topic: Jape, I understand what you`re saying. I hope you get some justice out of this situation and that the landlord who skanked you ends up getting his head kicked in by a bunch of chavs out of their heads on cheap booze / drugs