Appeal against magistrates court penalty

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petemattw wrote: »

I felt that by accepting the FPN that was an admission of guilt.

It is, but so is pleading guilty in court.

petemattw

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

It is, but so is pleading guilty in court.

I know but at least I thought in court I could explain the circumstances around how the situation came to be. I'd written a response and was lead to believe this would be reviewed prior to my hearing but it appears not. They also didn't seem to have my means tested information, but I may be wrong. They certainly didn't seem to know the information I'd sent prior to attending and I'm not sure I explained things clearly when I was there

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petemattw wrote: »

I know but at least I thought in court I could explain the circumstances around how the situation came to be.

And you expected that to get you less than £60 and 3 points :huh:

and I'm not sure I explained things clearly when I was there

It's not their fault, if you don't explain yourself properly.

Have to be honest, I don't see how you can recover this situation.

Seems like a fait accompli.

How long till your first 3 points are expired?

verityboo

petemattw wrote: »

Hi,

Quick back ground, was caught doing 42 in a 30. For reasons i won't go into I contested this in court. Having been originally offered £60 fine + 3 points or speed awareness course I've now been hit with £400 fine + 4 points + costs etc.

If you were offered a speed awareness course why didn't you take it if the issue is the points?

petemattw

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

And you expected that to get you less than £60 and 3 points :huh:



It's not their fault, if you don't explain yourself properly.

Have to be honest, I don't see how you can recover this situation.

Seems like a fait accompli.

How long till your first 3 points are expired?

got 3 points may 2011 so three years to go yet

Would an appeal not be a rehearing so chance to better explain myself?

petemattw

Looks like I messed up pleading guilty when I should have pleaded not guilty, think this was because my head was a mess when the paper work came through as i'd just lost my grandmother and my dog had also passed away. Any chance of getting this reopened?

petemattw

43k_in_43m wrote: »

I can't imagine a Speed Awareness Course was ever on the table - the speed's outside the norm and the OP already had 3 points

I've got the letter offering me a speedawareness course!

Johnmcl7

petemattw wrote: »

got 3 points may 2011 so three years to go yet

Would an appeal not be a rehearing so chance to better explain myself?

No, because you pleaded guilty the first time so you can only appeal the penalty which for a good chance of success would need to be higher than the guidelines with no reason.

John

verityboo

petemattw wrote: »

I've got the letter offering me a speedawareness course!

Why did you choose not to take up the offer ?

Johnmcl7

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

And you expected that to get you less than £60 and 3 points :huh:

That's the bit that I didn't understand so I assume I had misread the opening post when I was trying to clarify details. I think they were hoping to avoid endorsement completely but went about it the wrong way.

John