Section 21 notice

jamie11

franklee wrote: »

That this practice assists the landlord is tosh as the S21 cannot end the tenancy during the fixed term, so for a six month term the landlord has up to four months to serve the S21 and still get the same end date. So it gives the landlord no protection at all against the bad tenant but as this thread shows it alienates the good tenant. If the tenant turns bad early on the landlord could also use a section 8 notice.

Absobl00dylutely.

DVardysShadow

James_N wrote: »

Would it still be a matter of complaint on your part regarding the S21 if it was properly issued (i.e. at the right time and in the right way), or do you regard any agent or LL issuing an S21 at the beginning of the tenancy as engaging in "dirty tricks"?

Ultimately, I believe that any LL who issues a precautionary S21 is a fool. Savvy tenants [I don't mean those who exploit the system, I just mean decent tenants with their heads screwed on] will tend to avoid tenancies where they know this will happen. So effectively, the LL's are selecting for less good tenants.

And knowing what I know now, if I were still a tenant and I was issued a precautionary S21 I would move. Opinion here is sometimes expressed that a LL cannot revoke a S21. So the tenant is always living at the expired end of 2 months notice. This is no way to live, it is damaging to the fabric of society by encouraging people to have transient existences.. Just the opposite of what a LL would hope for in a tenant.

Kynthia

James_N wrote: »

I know this board is heavily biased against landlords, so can live with the baying pack snapping at my heels.

However the OP used the phrase: "I'm trying to find a way around it ..." which is a signal of intention to be difficult.

And no landlord EVER got shafted by a dishonest tenant, did they?

Well until recently I was a LL and I believe precautionary S21s are disgusting! It taints the relationship from the start and doesn't actually help the LL at all. You have up to 2 months before the end of the fixed term to issue a S21 if you aren't happy with the tenant without losing any time.

Issuing one at the start if the tenancy is either to unfairly pressurise the tenant into signing a new fixed term or to do them out of their entitled 2 months notice. A S21 is issued to inform the tenant that the LL wishes to reclaim possession of the propert so it is nonsensical to issue one when you don't yet have this intention!