Warehouse incidents... seeking advice *please help*

sniggings

dickydonkin wrote: »

No it isn't.

You are supposed to keep a safe braking distance from the car in front. If you slam into the back of a car - for whatever reason - you are obviously not travelling a safe braking distance and will almost certainly be deemed as at fault.

that is what I meant to say. I will edit my post.

sniggings

Jox wrote: »

It is strange to hear a 20 year old using the term "coloured", sounds so 70's and 80's.
This is all part of the experience of working with other people, developing understanding and patience towards others, no matter how slow or "ignorant" they may seem.
To get into such incidents during your probationary period doesn't bode well for the rest of your employment there.
You sound quite intelligent (other than the "coloured" comment - sorry) so perhaps this particular role wouldn't stretch you intellectually enough but I would worry about you working with people who are of a different ethnicity / race as you seem to fixated on the colour of their skin and it should be irrelevant.

You will find most black people prefer a certain term to describe their race, many times one may get it right but sometimes we guess wrong but guessing wrong does not make you a racist, it makes you a non mind reader, to be a racist takes more than a bad guess, throwing the term around loosely is only helping make the term racist seem less unacceptable.

Many blacks in this country prefer black but some do prefer coloured, where as in the USA many prefer coloured and hate the term black, they also use african american, so even more chance to get it wrong, as the Op sounds young I guess he maybe has heard the USA term more on xbox and the like, I know the kids in my family use americanisms more and more, with facebook etc.

Those that cry racist with no grounds are more bigoted than those they accuse.

Notmyrealname

sniggings wrote: »

to be fair I think the OP was saying that he felt he was listened to less and treated worse because the other guy was black, so therefore this guys colour is relevant.

Actually he was listened to less because he is an agency worker and as such, doesn't actually work for the company. He is disposable cannon fodder and can be told he isn't wanted the next day with no repercussions. The OP might just want to remember that.

sniggings

Notmyrealname wrote: »

Actually he was listened to less because he is an agency worker and as such, doesn't actually work for the company. He is disposable cannon fodder and can be told he isn't wanted the next day with no repercussions. The OP might just want to remember that.

I said that is what the OP felt was the reason, which is way he mentioned the guys colour.

eamon

Leaving aside the racist overtones I think your issue is is that you are not first out of the blocks and are scared of not making the targets and hence getting sacked. So surely then a possible good idea is to be first out of the block. Get to work/start of shift earlier. Explain to the team leader why you want to be the first or at least ahead of slow coach most of the time.
1. To keep on top of the picking targets and to keep your job
and most importantly
2. To avoid/lessen any grief for the team leaders

dacouch

jobneeded wrote: »

[STRIKE]And I'm sorry but racism work's both ways! saying somebody is coloured isn't exactly racist. if I said the person was black, does that some how sound better? when a white person says coloured, it means black, when a black person says to another black person, they don't say "coloured" to describe a white person do they? regardless of how someone is described ( I actually tried to give a description without refering to any possible racist comments being posted!!!!)

again, regardless of how the person is described, the boot has now been on both feet, and due to "colour" I've been listened to less, and feel that the team leader's won't state facts with "black" or similar as they fear the "race" card will be pulled out, which will cause further problems, "it's oh so easy to blame a white person and sweep it under the carpet"... Sorry, that's not good enough! when he's the instigator of the whole situation, parking on the right hand side* -[/STRIKE] he's no different to anyone else [STRIKE], everyone else in the isle was waiting, he decided not to, he took a chance and it didn't work! and when it came out.. I get the blame "in a sense" because of his color and because of the race card society we live in? I'm couldn't give a monkey's uncle about what colour someone is, but when the team leaders are blaming me, because "they" obviously fear that if they blamed the correct person the race card would come out...[/STRIKE]

I actually agree with you now

patman99

The opening post could not have been more racist if it had begun "Some dumbass !!!!!! snagged his rags on me cage......"

OP, like me, you are an agency worker. If, like me, you have been at your placement for over 12 weeks, you have the same rights as a permanent staff member and cannot simply be 'got rid of'. I suggest you check the following -

1- The AWR (2011)
2- The Equality Act (esp. the bit about various ethnic groups)
3- Your attitude

Btw, I work with some sista's and mista's I call them Mohammed, Terry, Leo and June. NOT those coloured workers.

BobQ

jobneeded wrote: »

And I'm sorry but racism work's both ways! saying somebody is coloured isn't exactly racist....

Unfortunately "coloured" is considered by most people nowadays as politically incorrect a(s a minimum) and by many more as racist. Now I might accept it from a 80 year old (as representing a practice of a lifetime with no sinister intent) but not from someone currently engaged in the world of work who appears to have the maturity of a 20 year old.

The fact is you chose to use the term many many times when you could have said "the other operator". Having read your explanations I have a very negative view of your attitude.

You are the temporary newbie in this firm and yet you seem totally convinced that everyone involved knows less about the correct way to behave than you do. This arrogance may well be unhelpful in your dealings in this job (and indeed any other).
You should be asking what the correct practice should be and doing what you are told.

sniggings

BobQ wrote: »

Unfortunately "coloured" is considered by most people nowadays as politically incorrect a(s a minimum) and by many more as racist. Now I might accept it from a 80 year old (as representing a practice of a lifetime with no sinister intent) but not from someone currently engaged in the world of work who appears to have the maturity of a 20 year old.

The fact is you chose to use the term many many times when you could have said "the other operator". Having read your explanations I have a very negative view of your attitude.

You are the temporary newbie in this firm and yet you seem totally convinced that everyone involved knows less about the correct way to behave than you do. This arrogance may well be unhelpful in your dealings in this job (and indeed any other).
You should be asking what the correct practice should be and doing what you are told.

wrong, depends where you are and what the person prefers, and even then it is not a racist term.

You need to travel more, if you went to some parts of the US and called someone black you would soon regret it.

sniggings

Anyway I'm done with this thread, the guy comes on for help and gets accused of being a racist.

If any of you are ever on a jury I hope you want more evidence than that, that someone is guilty.