"Is it wrong to work at a cinema or be a binman?" blog discussion.

Former_MSE_Sally

This is the discussion to link on the back of Martin's blog. Please read the blog first, as this discussion follows it.

Read Martin's "Is it wrong to work at a cinema or be a binman? " Blog.

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zerog

It's a paywall, not a paid firewall!

SailorSam

I think being a binman must be a good job these days, they are probably well paid and don't need to go into peoples back yards and carry a rusty steel bin full of ashes down the alleyway then return the bin to where they got it.

scott_lithgows

I,d love to work at a cinema,yes its minimum wage but when I escape from royal mail i will be looking for a beer money job,also quite fancy being a lollipop man!

rinabean

Youth unemployment is high because some people on the telly admit that minimum wage jobs are generally awful? Really? This is the opinion of a man whose whole job revolves around the economy?

It's not a lack of respect for workers, it's a lack of aspiration to awful low-paid jobs. Not the same at all.

smala01

There is nothing wrong with these jobs, just the person who does them should not expect to be able to buy a house, car and take 2 holidays a year.

Those luxuaries come with hard work and sacrifice (moving away, education promotion at work etc)

The trouble with society today is that every tom !!!!!! and harry expects the world but few are prepared to work for it.

Smala01

Errata

smala01 wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with these jobs, just the person who does them should not expect to be able to buy a house, car and take 2 holidays a year.

Those luxuaries come with hard work and sacrifice (moving away, education promotion at work etc)

The trouble with society today is that every tom !!!!!! and harry expects the world but few are prepared to work for it.

Smala01

I think being able to fund luxuries has everything to do with being in a well paid job first and foremost and nothing to do with hard work and sacrifice.

motivated

Many years ago when my children were small I cleaned two pubs 7 mornings a week and also cleaned schools for the council. It paid my bills and fed and clothed the kids. Now my children have grown I luckily now have a well paid job.
I have always taught my children don't ever be too proud to earn a pound note and pay your way (as long as its legal) The fact that whatever job you do you can hold your head up and say that you are contributing. They both have good jobs but I feel that this taught them a valuable lesson.

cgk1

[QUOTE=SailorSam;54827871]I think being a binman must be a good job these days, they are probably well paid and don't need to go into peoples back yards and carry a rusty steel bin full of ashes down the alleyway then return the bin to where they got it.[/QUOTE]

My brother is a binman, it's not particularly well paid (He always laughs when he sees figures of £40,000 and the like), he gets a little more as a driver but it's certainly not the made-up figures you see in the papers. Most (all?) councils outsourced the bins years ago and every year, the companies turn the screws on terms and conditions and try to increase their hours.

He's on about £20,000 and the pickers are on about £18,000.

RuthnJasper

I don't think it's wrong to do any work of this nature. Think what a wretched state we'd be in if NO-ONE emptied our bins!

I'm very grateful to them for the work they do - and that goes for litter-pickers, street-sweepers, Rights of Way maintenance teams, etc. I never make a fuss if I get caught behind a bin lorry and put my hand up to them when they let me drive past.

I think it's some senior and grossly-overpaid managers and executives who ought to be looking to their consciences; not bin-men, shelf-stackers, and the like.

smala01

Errata wrote: »

I think being able to fund luxuries has everything to do with being in a well paid job first and foremost and nothing to do with hard work and sacrifice.

But its a question of how you get to that well paid job... Delay having a family until you reach a certain point in your career, move to another town to take a better paid job. Those are the type of things i consider a sacrifice.