any order for being tested?

aggypanthus

`Is there any order in which IB claimants are being called in for testing? for example long term or short term claimants first, or alphabetical or by region? a relative is wondering when their turn will come, being a long term claimant, who hasnt yet been called in.

rogerblack

There has as far as I'm aware been no published schedule.
It is likely that if an assessment date for IB would normally fall before everyone is converted over to ESA, that that date would be more likely for the migration to happen.

It is reasonable to investigate the descriptors for ESA, and see which may apply.
https://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/m-06-11.pdf - and see if you can find any evidence of things you don't at the moment.
For example, a diary may be useful in some cases.

kingfisherblue

Sorry to butt in on this, but I've just looked at the descriptors and have a quick query. My son isn't old enough to claim ESA yet, but it will only be a few short years before he is. Assuming that there are no changes before then, what would happen in this case?

Page 7: Manual Dexterity
Cannot either: (i) press a button, such as a telephone keypad; or (ii) turn the pages of a book with either hand.

Now, my son can press buttons some of the time. He has very hypermobile joints, and his fingers bend almost completely backwards. He is ok if there isn't much pressure needed, but some buttons and switches are very difficult for him. He really struggles with light switches, for example.

So my query is, what happens regarding points when there is a variable? (such as this case, differing amounts of pressure may be needed for different things, and anything needing a slightly heavier pressure is difficult or impossible for my lad to manage). How are points awarded?

I know that my son isn't likely to be refused for ESA, as he has so many disabilities and conditions that he meets the 15 points on several criteria, but I'm quite interested to know. After all, other people will have conditions that mean there is no straightforward answer in some descriptors.

(Apologies for hijacking the thread)

leo-lady

My assessment date for ib should have been in june 2013 but i had a phone call the other day telling me i needed to complete the form for esa .

rogerblack

kingfisherblue wrote: »

Page 7: Manual Dexterity
Cannot either: (i) press a button, such as a telephone keypad; or (ii) turn the pages of a book with either hand.

Now, my son can press buttons some of the time. He has very hypermobile joints, and his fingers bend almost completely backwards. He is ok if there isn't much pressure needed, but some buttons and switches are very difficult for him. He really struggles with light switches, for example.

They key is to first approach this in a very direct and literal reading of the words.

Can he press a button like is found on a telephone keypad?

There are many sorts of buttons, all the way up to emergency buttons, which in some cases may require you to hit them with enough force to bruise yourself.
Light switches require generally more force than telephone keypad buttons, so if someone could not operate them, but could operate telephone buttons, they would not qualify under this descriptor.

(Assuming that they can repeatibly press such buttons through the course of the working day)

BRIANCARSON

aggypanthus wrote: »

`Is there any order in which IB claimants are being called in for testing? for example long term or short term claimants first, or alphabetical or by region? a relative is wondering when their turn will come, being a long term claimant, who hasnt yet been called in.

As far as I am aware they are calling in long term claimants just now { and have been doing so for some time } and the last to be called in will be current claiments who are under 21 { may be 25 } which does not make much sense but I dont control the DWP so there may be some reason why this is .

The migration period is claimed to be up to March 2014 so there is still some time to go.

andrea_louise

My IB review date was October 2013, but I was sent the ESA50 in April 2011, 6 months after my last IB review. As roger says, check out the descriptors and keep all supporting evidence together, because they only give you 4 weeks to return it.

kingfisherblue

Thanks Roger. He could probably operate telephone keypad buttons for a good while - but can't speak clearly enough to be understood on a phone. But that is another issue, and I've already hijacked this thread once.

Apologies OP.

johnkat

I've been on IB since 1998, my review date was Oct 2010, heard nothing till I got the ESA50 last week. It all seems pretty random to me. Although I am 'long term' IB, so maybe 'Briancarson' is right.

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also on IB since 98 and review was due 9/5/12 but no word so far

incorrect_2

My other half has been on IB long term and he received his forms about 2 weeks ago.