Job Fears: I am about to become part of the working poor?

bankhater_1965

Macca83 wrote: »

What's your point?

you quote that i dont mind others living off others by taxpayers, just making an example to your quote that that covers a massive range of issues and not just benefit claimers ! but you dont condone those but single out benefit claimers

MiddyMum

bankhater_1965 wrote: »

i agree with alot of what people say , BUT you cannot hide behind the truth and how it really is, i no people that started off at the bottom from benefits , worked hard and just got in such a mess they lost there homes etc by redundancy , as to they wished they had that easier less worry day to day living on benefits and now end up bankrupt etc, there is no doubt its a fact that everyone will be made redundant at least 3 times before retirement if starting there careers now and will rely totaly on benefits at some time to fully support there finanancail expenditure

I understand but what has this got to do with the OP situation.

bankhater_1965

MiddyMum wrote: »

I understand but what has this got to do with the OP situation.

poor a glass of wine and count to 10

Macca83_2

bankhater_1965 wrote: »

you quote that i dont mind others living off others by taxpayers, just making an example to your quote that that covers a massive range of issues and not just benefit claimers ! but you dont condone those but single out benefit claimers

Because that's what the thread is about. Not bankers bonuses or university grants or mp expenses. That's why I've singled that particularly issue out.

bankhater_1965

Macca83 wrote: »

Because that's what the thread is about. Not bankers bonuses or university grants or mp expenses. That's why I've singled that particularly issue out.

so why are you against people who dont work that get benefits then ?

kelfen

Take the job.

You'd get Return to Work credit for a year - which is £40 a month.
You'd get Working Tax Credit if over 25 - which would last as long as the wage is below a certain amount. Also, you may still get exemption so free prescriptions/dentists/opticians still

princessdon

bankhater_1965 wrote: »

i agree with alot of what people say , BUT you cannot hide behind the truth and how it really is, i no people that started off at the bottom from benefits , worked hard and just got in such a mess they lost there homes etc by redundancy , as to they wished they had that easier less worry day to day living on benefits and now end up bankrupt etc, there is no doubt its a fact that everyone will be made redundant at least 3 times before retirement if starting there careers now and will rely totaly on benefits at some time to fully support there finanancail expenditure

3 times - oh how I wish that were true. I'm onto my 3rd and my OH has had more than that. Didn't make us bankrupt or lose our home though.

The truth is that the benefit system should be a safety net for those that need them (the ill, the out of work but trying to find work, people made redundant with no savings). It should not be a lifestyle choice.

As for the bankers etc - I agree (though OT) but it's the same for Self Employed who cook their own books to pay a lower rate of tax or who refuse extra work to stay in their Tax Credit limit etc. This thread is only 1 example of things that people may not agree with so hardly singling out unemployed more responding to the direct question asked.

Macca83_2

bankhater_1965 wrote: »

so why are you against people who dont work that get benefits then ?

Im against the 'should i work, or should i not work.' If you're capable of work and you have the offer of a job then you work.

bankhater_1965

princessdon wrote: »

3 times - oh how I wish that were true. I'm onto my 3rd and my OH has had more than that. Didn't make us bankrupt or lose our home though.

The truth is that the benefit system should be a safety net for those that need them (the ill, the out of work but trying to find work, people made redundant with no savings). It should not be a lifestyle choice.

As for the bankers etc - I agree (though OT) but it's the same for Self Employed who cook their own books to pay a lower rate of tax or who refuse extra work to stay in their Tax Credit limit etc. This thread is only 1 example of things that people may not agree with so hardly singling out unemployed more responding to the direct question asked.

yes agree but the benefits started out as a safety net but now have become a full time income due to how many times people are made redundant and simply give up after the 6,7 or 8 times they lose a job, you openly admit yourself how many times you and hubby have lost jobs , it doesnt look good to convince anyone on benefits to think otherwise

bankhater_1965

Macca83 wrote: »

Im against the 'should i work, or should i not work.' If you're capable of work and you have the offer of a job then you work.

your a dictator !