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HELP NEEDED. Crazy crow relentlessly attacking our house. Tried everything!

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  • crazy_crow
    crazy_crow Posts: 48 Forumite
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    Thanks for all the advice, I am pretty sure a crazy cow would be easier to deal with than the wretched crow. I bought some green tinted sticky film from the local DIY store. Its for protecting glass and I am hoping it will
    work. It takes the reflection away but still lets the light in so I don't feel like I am living in a cave.
    My neighbour just spoke to me to let me know it attacked her windows for an hour or so this morning so maybe I will get to sleep in tomorrow morning. Not so good for the neighbour but I have had my fair share of crow attention for the time being.

    Now I just have to work out how to get that stupid Kia-ora song out of my head.
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    Oh dear I read the title as:

    HELP NEEDED. Crazy cow relentlessly attacking our house. Tried everything

    and could not understand all the talk about birds:rotfl:
    Quite amazingly so did I. I had visions of a wild Fresian or an out of control neighbour! :D

    But seriously the crow is clearly mentally disturbed - yes it does happen before the naysayers and p...takers start flaming me - they are very intelligent birds.

    Find your local wildlife rescue people and get them involved (ask at the vets if Uncle Google can't help - they are bound to know someone). They will take it off your hands and give it a good home for the rest of its natural (which could be up to twenty years) because it won't be releasable.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • crazy_crow
    crazy_crow Posts: 48 Forumite
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    Update,
    I used green tacky plastic film from the DIY shop £13 for 60cm x 25m, so not the cheapest but worth it not to have the crazy crow dawn attacks. I put the film on all the patio doors and all the ground level windows ( I mean the windows that go right down to ground level not the ground floor windows) I am going to leave the film on for quite a while and hope he forgets about our house.
    I will update if he comes back.
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    Well I read it correctly, (for once).

    Crows are classed as vermin and can legally be humanely destroyed. You would actually be doing the song bird and indeed all the other bird population a favour by destroying it due to the damage it does.

    Air rifle in the hands of some one who knows how to use it safely is 1 option, but a pea net stung up on canes about 6 feet from the window should ensure the bird is snagged. Then you can do want you want with it.

    I do have both a S Cert and a FA cert so have pretty clear knowledge of this stuff.
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

    Always expect the unexpected:eek:and then you won't be dissapointed
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    Well I read it correctly, (for once).
    :T
    Crows are classed as vermin and can legally be humanely destroyed. You would actually be doing the song bird and indeed all the other bird population a favour by destroying it due to the damage it does.
    Thats a very, very subjective. Crows are only classified as vermin in relation to the protection of crops and not what they do in the suburban garden and elsewhere. So its a bit misleading to suggest that its open season in Surbiton for anyone who fancies his hand with an air-rifle. Indeed Natural England suggests that the use of an airgun, even in the hands of an authorised person, is inappropriate as a control method.

    I have connections with both wildlife conservation and wildlife sanctuary organisations so have pretty clear knowledge of this stuff.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    edited 29 July 2012 at 9:22AM
    Probably the 1st time I have actually an entirely different view on a topic to you.
    And it is entirely down to my personal experience. Don't do it much know but 20 years back I had vermin control rights over an area of over 1000 acres of local farmland. I culled crows, a lot of crows.

    My recommendation was not to use an air rifle without qualification, but as someone else had mentioned it, it was an option.

    The 1 thing I learnt is how clever and adaptable they are, remove 1 food source and they will find another, they can find ways into a barn or grainstack that you wouldn't believe.

    And it doesn't stop there, I have several friends who have had their goldfish and Koi carp removed by a crows, if a heron did that I would fair enough, you have to protect your property, but when a crow manages to unpick a covering net big enough to fish through well.

    And remember the problem at a wildlife pond a few years ago.
    All the frogs were exploding during the breeding season.
    Only on close watch was it found that the local frog population had taken a fancy to frog livers.
    I 1 stab they could hit and remove the frogs liver, it's body would close the wound but it's own defences pumped it up hence exploding frogs.
    Dam nasty things and I would use any means at my disposal to despatch them.

    There is nothing humane about a crow.
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

    Always expect the unexpected:eek:and then you won't be dissapointed
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    I've thanked your post for the first paragraph alone because clearly you were an authorised person in relation to what is the law as regards crow as vermin. On that I'm not disagreeing with you for one solitary microsecond

    The remainder falls short on objectivity IMHO 'cos is naycha innit? No I'm not a cuddler of everything furry and feathery and as an example in my household, according to wife and daughter, foxes were to be rescued and pampered at every opportunity if in trouble until our chickens disappeared one night recently then all hell broke loose on the distaff side.

    I can appreciate your POV but still maintain your original post was misleading on the "open season" front because it strayed from the objective into the emotional.

    Like them or loathe them theres absolutely nothing legal about taking pot shots at crows unless its for crop protection and even then you have to be an authorised person. Otherwise you are probably breaking various bits of the Wildlife Protection (Amendment) Act 2006 and probably various others. Thats the whole point from an objective perspective.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    edited 29 July 2012 at 5:56PM
    That's no problem, I probably did'nt make it clear that my preferred tactic would be to snag the bird.

    And yes I would destroy it based on my hatred for the species.

    I also sometime forget that some folks are estate dwellers, not country bumpkins like me.;);)

    But I have to add, as I understand it states that you can despatch a crow if it is attacking livestack on your premises, it doesn't differentiate between rural/farm/urban/back garden.

    You don't have to be Einstein to figure a way around that from the OPs perspective, juesss, still hate crows. The image of a bird picking the eye balls out of an animal is always that of a crow, did I mention I don't like them??
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

    Always expect the unexpected:eek:and then you won't be dissapointed
  • muckybutt
    muckybutt Posts: 3,761 Forumite
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    keystone wrote: »
    Like them or loathe them theres absolutely nothing legal about taking pot shots at crows unless its for crop protection and even then you have to be an authorised person.
    Cheers

    Slightly wrong on that matter legal for crop and wildlife protection ( http://www.basc.org.uk/en/media/key_issues.cfm/cid/29E725C1-6869-49F3-B0404D32BAB8478F ), as for being authorised ? you can shoot them on your own land no problem and if the rifle is under 12ftlb then no firearms licence required. Should you wish to shoot on land other than land you own then you will need permission from the land holder, if you shoot on land other than that of your own without permission then that is classed as armed tresspass and will be treated as a firearms offence by the police accordingly.
    You may click thanks if you found my advice useful
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    edited 29 July 2012 at 2:47PM
    Sorry but no not wrong at all. Authorised person means exactly that. Authorised by the landowner. If you are the landowner you authorise yourself.

    I said nothing about requiring a shotgun or firearms licence being needed to treat corvids as vermin for the purposes of crop protection. What I said was that NE do not like the practice of using an air rifle.

    I see nothing in your link which changes what I have written.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
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