Problem with new car purchase

verityboo

Nearly_Old wrote: »

I don't think that it is a "minor detail" as I believe that VAT is only applicable to the first sale and it could be argued that as the vehicle has already been registered then you are the 2nd owner. There may be an argument that you should not be paying VAT. The dealer appears to have put themselves in a difficult position as they are now trying to sell a "pre-registered" vehicle as if it is a "new" vehicle.

But if the sale to the person who originally ordered the car was not completed (and VAT not paid), the OP would still be the first person to purchase the car. VAT would still be payable

maninthestreet

What is the exact make and model, and what price have you agreed to puchase it for?

harveybobbles

Christ - legal advise? Calm dowm dear. Just go in and calmy explain that you are unhappy with how it has turned out and would like your deposit back as the car isnt going to be as discussed.

Simples.

If you go in quoting law and legal blurb then the dealership will be less willing to assist you.

Hintza

Just a thought to ponder.

Now if the OP negotiates a decent discount will the dealer then sue the original buyer for any losses over and above the deposit?

mvteng

Yes, it would annoy me slightly, but if the car is "very popular new model with very long lead times" & it was the car I wanted / colour / spec I wanted, then it wouldnt bother me too much.

Certainly it wouldnt bother me enough to wait for 20/30 weeks.

Foxy-Stoat_3

Why not get the dealer to reduce the price and get some money off.

You will be getting the same car with the same mileage at a good discount all for another name on the V5, wont make the car drive any different!

This is a money saving forum after all!!!

neilmcl

Snuggles wrote: »

Hi, this is a very popular new model with very long lead times and there are only slight discounts to be had off the list price (even on internet deals). I did negotiate a small amount off, I only mentioned the list price to emphasise that this was being sold as a brand new vehicle.

Dependant on the car in question (please name it), I'd be wanting at least another 2-3K off to continue with the sale. Have a look at some broker sites and see how much you can get a new pre-reg version for.

JimmyTheWig

Snuggles wrote: »

Yes, I think you're probably right. I dont see how they can argue about about giving me my deposit back, but I'm sure they'll try.

I don't think they'll try.
They've got no grounds to keep your deposit.
I'd only bother with legal advice if they refuse to give you your deposit back.

Personally I'd be asking for a goodwill gesture for messing you around and adding even more time on to when you can actually get your new car. But I doubt that you'll be offered anything better than a discount off another one, which won't be much help if you don't want to deal with them now.
Up to you to see how much they'll knock off the price because of the registration issue and how eager you are to get one of these cars. You know that it is a new car. Does it actually matter too much to you what the piece of paper says?

Snuggles

harveybobbles wrote: »

Christ - legal advise? Calm dowm dear. Just go in and calmy explain that you are unhappy with how it has turned out and would like your deposit back as the car isnt going to be as discussed.

Simples.

If you go in quoting law and legal blurb then the dealership will be less willing to assist you.

I had no intention of going in quoting legal blurb, I'm not an idiot thanks! I just think it's a good idea to know what the legal position is if you suspect that you're going to meet resistance -it's easier to stand your ground if you know you are right!

Snuggles

I went to the dealer's today and I'm happy to say that they refunded my deposit without any quibble.

I know to some people it wouldnt matter that the car was pre-registered, but if I wasn't bothered about that, I'd have been looking at nearly new or pre reg cars in the first place. If I'm paying a new car price, I want everything to be exactly as it should be, including the paperwork.

Thanks for all the replies!