What's the worst cover-up you've come across?

Nicki

Tiger_greeneyes wrote: »

Excuse me? Where did I mention child cruelty or neglect???

The facts are that the children were perfectly normal boys - I met them on my viewings - they weren't locked in their room as there wasn't a lock on the door. They just used a corner of the room as a toilet. The parents obviously knew about this because they were able to mask the smell on viewings. The smell came back once they weren't there to cover it up.

I knew the situation in my own home and I personally find your assumptions and attitude to be inappropriate. I'm sorry you've got family difficulties but crusading wrongly against someone else when you don't know what you're on about isn't the way forward.

I read your first post to mean that the children's bedroom had a lock on the outside of the door, and that the reason why the room smelt of wee was because the children were only allowed to use their room to wee, not allowed out to the bathroom. I apologise if I misunderstood what you were saying, but I think it is only your second post, which makes clear that the lock was to keep the children out of parents room, not in their own.

Nonetheless your post was judgmental about a family about which you know nothing, and with the greatest respect meeting the children on a few short viewings doesn't qualify you to say whether they were or were not "perfectly normal" (an offensive term in its own right). Most children who do not have some form of disability, physical condition or mental health issue, do not choose to urinate in their own bedrooms. If you look at the approved NHS guidance on continence issues, you will see that this view is a mainstream one. What are you in fact accusing these children of? Laziness or naughtiness, I assume

I'm not taking out my "family difficulties" on you, simply saying that you shouldn't make assumptions and judgments about family circumstances about which you know nothing, and that there may well have been very good alternative reasons for the things which you saw. If you don't like others expressing an opinion on what you say, don't post your opinions on an open forum. I didn't say that you were forbidden to express a view, just expressed my own strong opinion that your view was an unpleasant and most likely ill founded one. You can't censor other people's opinions btw, unless they are in some way unlawful, so your PM to me "forbidding" me to post again on this thread was just bizarre!

barnaby-bear

Nicki wrote: »

Nonetheless your post was judgmental about a family about which you know nothing!

!!!!!! cats house train their kittens, and they learn they can't pee on the carpet.
Before modern cleaning materials and urine digesting enzymes what do you think our gradnparents did? Oh yes that was it teach their kids that peeing on the floor is out of order.
If kids / parents can't learn what we expect of our pets it's pretty sad state of affairs.

You put a label on it or have NHS guidelines on it but unless there are extreme learning difficulties toilet training is a basic life skill.

Leaving a house with a stinky soggy carpet soaked in p1ss is social unacceptable and it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. If the parents were into urine or watersports they should have at least had the decency to clean up their own mess.

Tiger_greeneyes

barnaby-bear wrote: »

!!!!!! cats house train their kittens, and they learn they can't pee on the carpet.
Before modern cleaning materials and urine digesting enzymes what do you think our gradnparents did? Oh yes that was it teach their kids that peeing on the floor is out of order.
If kids / parents can't learn what we expect of our pets it's pretty sad state of affairs.

You put a label on it or have NHS guidelines on it but unless there are extreme learning difficulties toilet training is a basic life skill.

Leaving a house with a stinky soggy carpet soaked in p1ss is social unacceptable and it's ridiculous to claim otherwise. If the parents were into urine or watersports they should have at least had the decency to clean up their own mess.

Thanks for that, Barnaby Bear - I'm glad you understand where I'm coming from! I actually had to cancel my honeymoon to strip out soggy, stinky carpets and I wasn't best pleased - I never did get my honeymoon!!! I spent all my spending money getting my carpets and underlay replaced. The poor carpet fitter had tears streaming down his face from the stench :eek:

Nicki, I didn't 'forbid' you to post on any thread, I merely asked you not to aim any further posts at me unless you were apologising - only fair, considering you jumped to outrageous and frankly offensive conclusions. Please either take your self-righteousness elsewhere and leave me alone - or lighten up and join in with the lighthearted nature of the thread - it's up to you. The reason I pm'd you was I don't like public confrontations, they're best sorted out in private, and not fair to other posters.

Eeeeeh, I hope that's an end to it