How to leave this job

JDC14

Hi guys,

Just after a bit of advice to do with leaving my current position.

I've been with the company for 1 year and 9 months, and initially started as a part-timer, until I went full time in March this year when I finished college and I was promoted to my current role in May.

I work as part of a "three-man team" However, most of the time I have been there, it's been a two man team, due to one of the guys being on holiday for a long period, then leaving the company about a fortnight ago. He has not yet been replaced, as the managers initially forgot to even advertise the vacancy externally.

Either way, it's not a job I want to do in the future, and I have an interview for another job, which I think I have a good chance of getting, which is on Monday afternoon.

I just wondered how I should go about leaving as there's a few issues to come across.

A) I get on really well with the guy that I work with, and the hours we've been pulling the past 6 weeks+ have put a real strain on his homelife - and a family member of his just died - so I'd feel quite bad leaving him in the lurch with and 86 hour (absolute bare bones minimum) rota to work.

I've not actually signed and returned my contract yet. Does this have any bearing? I am technically back in a 6-month probationary period.

C) I have over 40 hours overtime owing to me (but the way they do it, it won't be paid until September). Will I still be owed that money? Or am I basically accepting I've lost it when I leave?


Thanks in advance for any advice guys.

whitewing

Good luck for the interview and don't worry too much until you get the offer. You will get advice here on the practicalities regarding the contract and overtime, but you may have to wait until more people are on the site during the day.

Sambucus_Nigra

Firstly - get the job. Then worry about the rest.

What is your notice period?

Wait until you have the offer in writing, and an unconditional offer at that - negotiate a start date - depending on your notice period, and then hand your notice in.

If you are not paid any holidays or overtime owing, send them a letter asking for the money and then if you don't get it, there are steps you can take but make sure you are 100% sure of each hour and holiday you are owed before you leave.

RoxRoxBling

In regards to a) you have to be a little 'selfish' to make yourself happy (Trust me my boss certainly is). Just concentrate on what you want for your future.

With the hours you're owed, legally they should pay you provided their is a record of it Google ACAS, they have a lot of advice in regards to being paid from your employer.

JDC14

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Firstly - get the job. Then worry about the rest.

What is your notice period?

Wait until you have the offer in writing, and an unconditional offer at that - negotiate a start date - depending on your notice period, and then hand your notice in.

If you are not paid any holidays or overtime owing, send them a letter asking for the money and then if you don't get it, there are steps you can take but make sure you are 100% sure of each hour and holiday you are owed before you leave.

My notice period is 1 week. This company I'm going in to is quite relaxed, I have a friend who works there, and they offered him the job on the day, and they already told him I look capable enough from my CV. But really, it gives me the sales experience I've been told I need for a few recruitment jobs I've looked at for the future.

Would it be fairer, if I were to offer 2-weeks notice, if it could be negotiated with the new firm, to give my current company a bit more time to get their !!! in gear and employ someone. I know it's not my fault - but it's not the easiest job to fill, and they were quite lucky to have a ready-made replacement in me when I was promoted, but they don't have that this time.

Last time I was showed my hours sheet, I had accrued about 43 'Banked' hours. Which I should be paid out in our September pay cheque at the pre-agreed hourly rate.

RoxRoxBling wrote: »

In regards to a) you have to be a little 'selfish' to make yourself happy (Trust me my boss certainly is). Just concentrate on what you want for your future.

With the hours you're owed, legally they should pay you provided their is a record of it Google ACAS, they have a lot of advice in regards to being paid from your employer.

I understand I have to be selfish - and it doesn't bother me in terms of the company, as theres a few tricks they pull to try and stitch people up a little, but I get on quite well with the guy I work with, and nobody wants to work 8+ hour shifts, 7 days a week as there's currently nobody trained to help him that's available, so would be quite a bit of mayhem.

DVardysShadow

JDC14 wrote: »

..... A) I get on really well with the guy that I work with, and the hours we've been pulling the past 6 weeks+ have put a real strain on his homelife - and a family member of his just died - so I'd feel quite bad leaving him in the lurch with and 86 hour (absolute bare bones minimum) rota to work.

This really is not your problem. Once you are gone, they will need to face up to the fact that they have a crisis and just accept that your colleague cannot cover it all, so you may actually make things easier for him.

Sambucus_Nigra

JDC14 wrote: »

My notice period is 1 week. This company I'm going in to is quite relaxed, I have a friend who works there, and they offered him the job on the day, and they already told him I look capable enough from my CV. But really, it gives me the sales experience I've been told I need for a few recruitment jobs I've looked at for the future.

Would it be fairer, if I were to offer 2-weeks notice, if it could be negotiated with the new firm, to give my current company a bit more time to get their !!! in gear and employ someone. I know it's not my fault - but it's not the easiest job to fill, and they were quite lucky to have a ready-made replacement in me when I was promoted, but they don't have that this time.

Last time I was showed my hours sheet, I had accrued about 43 'Banked' hours. Which I should be paid out in our September pay cheque at the pre-agreed hourly rate.

I understand I have to be selfish - and it doesn't bother me in terms of the company, as theres a few tricks they pull to try and stitch people up a little, but I get on quite well with the guy I work with, and nobody wants to work 8+ hour shifts, 7 days a week as there's currently nobody trained to help him that's available, so would be quite a bit of mayhem.

No - it would not be fairer. It's their decision to request one week's notice. You may find yourself with a week's holiday if you give them a fortnight [which is great if that's what you want]. Some employers prefer people to go as soon as possible, and if they don't then it's their responsibility to put a longer notice period in the contract.

You are doing nobody any favours by second guessing them - if a week's notice is what they want then give it to them.

JDC14

Okay that's fair enough.

What should I be doing before I hand in my notice? Should I be telling them I've been to an interview? If I get it offered on the day, it'll literally be a weeks notice, whereas with the other guy that left, they knew for a long while he was looking for work - I don't think they are expecting it from me as I've only been in the job since the last week of May.

getmore4less

Your thinking to hard.

Say nothing till you get the job then hand in your notice.

if the place you are hoping to go too need more people would the person you work with be interested?

The only other issue is making sure you get paid for the overtime and any accued untake holidays so make sure you have that documented should it go as far as an ET.

JDC14

Interview went well.

Told to expect a phone call today to confirm a job offer and could start middle of next week.

Sambucus_Nigra

WHEN you get the offer, then hand one week's notice in.

That's all you have to do.