living and paying maintenance....

frostman

how do you guys cope? currently i pay £42 a week to the PWC after £280 wage per week after tax.

decided to pay the full amount and nothing else to avoid arguments. i have no problems paying the £42 a week.done by mutual agreement and is exactly what the csa would take via there collection method.

after rent ect, car ect....leaves me with about 20/30ish quid a week to play with if that.
I pay for petrol to see my daughter and take her out when i can. i also provide nappies and food when she stays over once every other week.

i feel like as i pay my way, and she doesnt work and is on benefits she should help with MY overnite stays by giving me my money for that day.
am i being unreasonable here? she is on benefits and laughing with all this money and heres me working crazy shifts just about keeping afloat.

DUTR

You are not being unreasonable, but being realistic, it ain't gonna happen really, time to seek a job with higher salary, to up your disposable income.
See where you can save money elsewhere, eg, grocery, petrol and running costs of the car, energy bills etc.

Bluemeanie_2

I know a lot of "lefties" will disagree with me (I do not agree with an unlimited welfare state etc, but that's a different debate), but I really do not agree with how a PWC is allowed to be on full benefits AND keep CSA in addition. The whole point of the CSA was to make people pay for their own kids and not the txpayer. I don't feel you are being unreasonable, but I'm sure others will be along with their usual arguments soon...

DUTR

Only confusion is with this thread https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4037027

which seems to contradict your circumstances written in the original posting

clearingout

frostman wrote: »

how do you guys cope? currently i pay £42 a week to the PWC after £280 wage per week after tax.

decided to pay the full amount and nothing else to avoid arguments. i have no problems paying the £42 a week.done by mutual agreement and is exactly what the csa would take via there collection method.

after rent ect, car ect....leaves me with about 20/30ish quid a week to play with if that.
I pay for petrol to see my daughter and take her out when i can. i also provide nappies and food when she stays over once every other week.

i feel like as i pay my way, and she doesnt work and is on benefits she should help with MY overnite stays by giving me my money for that day.
am i being unreasonable here? she is on benefits and laughing with all this money and heres me working crazy shifts just about keeping afloat.

well, as a working PWC who receives no maintenance from her ex, I can tell you that having £20 left at the end of the week sounds like heaven to me. We all have to manage and cut our cloth accordingly - should I not receive any maintenance 'cos I manage?

duchy

Overtime dried up has it ? The figures you claim don't quite match up with your other thread.

NRPs like you give the decent ones a bad name.

frostman

duchy wrote: »

Overtime dried up has it ? The figures you claim don't quite match up with your other thread.

NRPs like you give the decent ones a bad name.

excuse me?
like i said i pay my way, i dont see why i should pay extra when the mother gets more than i do.

and to the other woman whos ex doesnt pay? get him to pay if you are entiltled to it.

and YES overtime has dried up. Its my overtime, with all that extra a week she could get sky in every room!

seriously i pay my way and people on here moan.
if i was a looser i too would be on benefits and earning more money than being honest. Id prefer if women with attitudes would not post in this thread.

OH YES............im the bad parent? to the woman who said that, my ex even got a guy to pretend to be csa to find out my earnings!
keep out of things you dont know about. !!!!

clearingout

frostman wrote: »

excuse me?
like i said i pay my way, i dont see why i should pay extra when the mother gets more than i do.

and to the other woman whos ex doesnt pay? get him to pay if you are entiltled to it.

ah yes....it's that simple. Like many of us who post here, I have an ex who is self employed. It's not quite so simple to get maintenance for children from a self employed NRP who doesn't want to pay. I have no entitlement to maintenance but OUR children have a right to be loved and supported financially by both their parents, don't you think?

Your ex has to manage 2 people's lives - this would be why she has more money than you, perhaps?

Bluemeanie_2

frostman wrote: »

excuse me?
like i said i pay my way, i dont see why i should pay extra when the mother gets more than i do.

and to the other woman whos ex doesnt pay? get him to pay if you are entiltled to it.

and YES overtime has dried up. Its my overtime, with all that extra a week she could get sky in every room!

seriously i pay my way and people on here moan.
if i was a looser i too would be on benefits and earning more money than being honest. Id prefer if women with attitudes would not post in this thread.

OH YES............im the bad parent? to the woman who said that, my ex even got a guy to pretend to be csa to find out my earnings!
keep out of things you dont know about. !!!!

Although I generally agree with lot of what you are saying, that isn't really fair. People are going to express their opinions on an open forum whether or not you agree with them. You will always see it from the other point of view as a NRP, not a PWC.

I do agree about the benefits thing as I said. It contradicts why the CSA was set up. But then my views will go this way as I do not believe in the welfare state the way it is set up now anyhow.

jarhead66

The CSA got it totally wrong when the P.W.C. who is on benefits gets maintenance payments on top of their benefits, They should of only give it to P.W.C. who agrees to go through with a private agreement with the N.R.P. That way the govement gets to save money on administration costs.
My ex gets all her benefits, rent payed, council tax, plus £469 amonth of me for my son.
At present i pay maintenance on the old CSA1 scheme, so that means some months if i don't get overtime i am working for less than someone who is unemployed as the CSA1 does not take council tax into consideration when it comes to the protected income of the calculations! all they give you is your housing costs and your income support money with your protected income.
The CSA are not bothered one bit if you can't afford to live, I was told by the CSA on more than one occasion that my CSA payments where more important than my morgate, and that household bills (gas,electricity, etc) are a luxury. If the CSA where that bothered about the N.R.P's they would have put us all on the new scheme as soon asit starts in Oct, after all i have been waiting 9 years to come off CSA1!!! No doubt the sensible show wearing brigade will be up in arms waving their fred perry's in the air about what i have wrote!! LOL :beer:

Marisco

jarhead66 wrote: »

The CSA are not bothered one bit if you can't afford to live, I was told by the CSA on more than one occasion that my CSA payments where more important than my morgate, and that household bills (gas,electricity, etc) are a luxury. :beer:

Yes, my oh was told more or less the same thing, only it was rent not mortgage. (this was mid 90's, so it seems nowt's changed!:() When he said he could possibly be homeless, due to not being able to afford to pay the rent, they more or less said "tough, not our problem"!!!