How would you react

Kt8

He knows of our concerns .. He has a car so not main transport.. His attitude is that of a child doing it out of spite .. Very arrogant

Lotus-eater

He's his son as well and he wants his son to enjoy motorbikes. Get used to it.

I don't see how powerful a bike is makes any difference at all, it's how it's ridden.

And it makes a difference if he's just going round the block or something, or on a long journey. But I do agree, he should have proper clothes on.

londonsurrey

The law is on his side on the grounds of consent.

You can use the law to back you on other grounds, i.e. safety concerns about no leathers and boots being used.

spadoosh

As said earlier doesnt matter at all how powerful the bike is, its the user and there ability to drive said motorcycle.

However get your son off that bike. The fact he has no leathers on is very worrying. Your partner should know how bad a small fall can cut you up without leathers so shouldnt risk it at all with his child.

I really cant see why he would do this to wind you up though dont knwo him so could just be a fruit loop. Maybe hes not telling anyone because he thinks nothing of it. It would be very hard for a biker not to encourage their child to follow the same route.

Make sure you play havoc over the leathers!

mambo69

I may have missed this but he is legally taking his child out on the back of a bike?
If so i cant see the issue, however it does seem like there are some unresolved anger issues with your ex, and if it was not this making you so angry it would be something else.

robpw2

i don't like motorbikes and can understand why your upset op but when your child is with his father then it is up to his father to make descicions and give consent where appropriate. does he ring you and ask you what his boy can have for lunch/dinner or if they can go to the shops or if they can go to a theme park ?

Kt8

^ lol no anger issues with ex

Anyhow yes it's the leathers (lack of)we have issue with also. The safety.. Being responsible. Just wondering what everyone's personal opinon would be as everyone is different

Cheers

Lotus-eater

I can't wait till my sons 7 and I can take him on the back of mine. My DD doesn't want to come out on it

londonsurrey

I agree with the people what said that the power of the bike in itself is not a problem, it's the biker and how much control he has over it and the manner in which he drives.

This is a tad extreme, but I've tried a quick stint in my late FIL's mobility scooter, and I couldn't control it. Lol. So obviously I wouldn't trust a child with me on a mobility scooter.

I've got a couple of friends (they don't know each other), both in their 50s, both into bikes. They know what they're doing, are responsible drivers, and had all their spills and knocks in their teens and 20s. I would trust a child with them if fully kitted out and they had judged the child to be a trustworthy passenger (it works both ways).

Basically, it's like trusting the captain of a ship. Is it someone steady and experienced, or like that little boy-man in charge of that Italian ship that sank, because I simply wouldn't trust that captain with anything anyhow, regardless of its size, power, or even in matters not seafaring!

FizzledOut

Never had a problem with my son going on the back of his Dad's bike, I didn't feel confident enough to let him on the back of my bike. He's ridden pillion since he was 7 - he's now 23 and has no interest in learning to ride himself.

"Leathers" keeps being mentioned. Appropriate clothing doesn't specify leathers - most serious motorcyclists have bike suits - I presume the OP's ex isn't letting his kid ride in T shirt and trainers. Crash helmet is required by law - and should be a proper size, not an adults helmet done up extra tight!

A motorbike is safe transportation in safe hands.