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Flat/House mates who leave the Front door open

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  • melysion
    melysion Posts: 801 Forumite
    movnik894 wrote: »
    What do you think of this? Does it sound too harsh, not harsh enough?
    I am not the best at writing letters with a professional tone.

    Dear,

    I am writing this letter as I am concerned about the security about of the above address.
    On many occasions I have found the front door left open overnight by one of the residents of the building.
    I have advised all residents to please ensure the front door is closed, but it appears this has had no effect.
    I would like you to install a door closer to the front door to avoid residents’ ability to close the front door. I would also like you to install extra bolts on my personal door, as my flat is on the ground floor and easy access if the front door is left open for any threats.
    I believe this will be in your best interest as a landlord to provide this security.
    As a landlord it is also your responsibility to ensure tenants are following terms of the contract, which states that the property to be left secure.
    Please ensure this is carried out within 10 days. I will be forced to withdraw any rent due if this is not acted upon.
    Yours sincerely,

    Not sure you want to threaten the landlord with not paying the rent. Apart from your obligation to do so regardless of the state of the property, you are threatening him without even giving him an opportunity to fix the problem beforehand. The time to be forceful is further down the line, if he doesnt rectify it in a timely manner.

    notes are pointless I've always found. People will ignore them.
  • movnik894
    movnik894 Posts: 36 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    Thank you - I will remove that bit
  • phill99
    phill99 Posts: 9,093 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    If you don't pay your rent the LL will soon start proceedings to have you evicted.
    Eat vegetables and fear no creditors, rather than eat duck and hide.
  • System
    System Posts: 178,373 Community Admin
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    movnik894 wrote: »
    I would also like you to install extra bolts on my personal door, as my flat is on the ground floor and easy access if the front door is left open for any threats.
    I believe this will be in your best interest as a landlord to provide this security.

    Wow you sure know how to get on the good side of your LL. It's a bit condescending telling him its in his own best interests.

    How about ASKING if you can add a bolt to your flat door? Why extra boltS ? It sounds like you are paranoid about being attacked. The bolts will not help protect the property if you are out since they will be internal.

    Maybe this isn't the right type of environment for you to be living in and you need to live somewhere where you have direct control over your security.
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  • !!!!!! wrote: »
    Wow you sure know how to get on the good side of your LL. It's a bit condescending telling him its in his own best interests.

    How about ASKING if you can add a bolt to your flat door? Why extra boltS ? It sounds like you are paranoid about being attacked. The bolts will not help protect the property if you are out since they will be internal.

    Maybe this isn't the right type of environment for you to be living in and you need to live somewhere where you have direct control over your security.
    You're being rather harsh. The OP already said he's not the best at writing professional letters, that's why he's posting it on here first instead of just sending it.

    OP I wouldn't put in the bits about responsibilities or make any timescale demands. I'd concentrate on the risks of the door being left open, something like this:
    "I am writing this letter as I am concerned about the security of the above address.
    On many occasions I have found the front door left open overnight by one of the residents of the building.
    I have advised all residents to please ensure the front door is closed, but this has had no effect. I'm concerned that this leaves the building and my home at risk of burglary or vandalism. I would be grateful if the problem could be resolved, perhaps by way of a door closer for the main door. I look forward to hearing from you on this matter."

    Something like that.
  • movnik894
    movnik894 Posts: 36 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    I am glad I asked everyone about the first draft of my letter before I sent!
    Clearly I am no good at writing it! Thank you.
    Second draft on the way.....
  • poppysarah
    poppysarah Posts: 11,522 Forumite
    Just wake up one morning to spray painted graffiti in the communal areas and it'll be fixed.
  • Strapped
    Strapped Posts: 8,158 Forumite
    Post a note on each of your neighbours doors saying, "Oi, cretin, have you shut the front door?". Should work wonders with neighbourly relations too.

    Or, alternatively, you could wang up a door closer yourself and see whether anyone actually notices/complains.
    They deem him their worst enemy who tells them the truth. -- Plato
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    James_N wrote: »
    The tenant is fully entitled to expect to enjoy "quiet enjoyment" of their flat. An insecure environment is not. Providing a self-closing door and / or extra bolts on HIS personal door would go a long way to help, and would protect a LL from any claim after (say) an assault or robbery. It would seem to be prudent for the LL to act.
    Do stop posting twaddle such as this. As another poster has pointed out this is not what the term "quiet enjoyment" is about. As you profess to be a LL you should know that.
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    edited 18 July 2012 at 2:04PM
    OP - don't make threats about withholding your rent and don't make "demands".

    Can you confirm whether your LL owns the whole building?

    There should be a fire risk assessment which covers the communal areas and the door issues would fall under that
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