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Large Toilet For Big People

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  • kingfisherblue
    kingfisherblue Posts: 9,203 Forumite
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    The OT is the Occupational Therapist. If you ring the local council and ask to be out through to the OT for disabilities, ask for a referral.

    My son needed a special toilet and this was provided by the council, although I live in my own home. If we move, the toilet will be removed. It isn't a larger toilet, thoguh, so I can't advise on whether the OT might provide one. They may suggest that your brother is referred for help to lose weight instead, as this would benefit your brother's health as well.
  • LetItBe_2
    LetItBe_2 Posts: 37 Forumite
    Thanks for your advice very helpful.
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  • lijaloo
    lijaloo Posts: 265 Forumite
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    if you do a web search for bariatric equipment or bariatric toilet you wll find toilets and some alternatives. I think that an OT is likely to recommend a frame rather than a toilet because of the cost.
  • LetItBe_2
    LetItBe_2 Posts: 37 Forumite
    yeah there expensive however a frame will be no good. It needs to be like the toilets at the hospital for disabled people.
  • Spamfree_2
    Spamfree_2 Posts: 584 Forumite
    LetItBe wrote: »
    yeah there expensive however a frame will be no good. It needs to be like the toilets at the hospital for disabled people.
    The links further up the thread will help you source one, and the DLA money he gets will pay for it.
  • blossomhill_2
    blossomhill_2 Posts: 1,923 Forumite
    Hi OP
    I hope the OT can help as I have been in property management and know the problems that can be caused from using a too small toilet - in all liklihood it will need to be resited so it is not too close to the wall so it will involve building works as well as a purchase. Once the OT has assessed the local authority will advise whether they can help with this, such as via a Disabled Facilities Grant

    There may be other adjustments that the OT can suggest that aren't immediately obvious too, such as alarms in case he gets stuck (I hope not) or widened doorways
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  • lijaloo
    lijaloo Posts: 265 Forumite
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    The OT will assess his needs and if he/she decides that a frame is suitable I'm afraid your brother will have to at least try it.
    Who has said he needs a toilet like the ones in hospitals for disabled people?
    Is it the fact that he is unable to clean himself that is the problem rather than the fact that he needs a bigger toilet to hold his weight. If that is the case there are toilets which "wash and dry" but again he would need to assessed as needing one and that is the job of the OT.
  • kingfisherblue
    kingfisherblue Posts: 9,203 Forumite
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    The 'wash and dry' toilets are expensive - this is the sort that we have for my son. It was deemed necessary by the OT, as he is unable to clean himself. I did suggest an ordinary toilet and separate bidet, but the OT was concerned about transferring faeces and creating more mess.

    In addition, my son struggles with switches, as his limbs are extremely hypermobile - his fingers bend completely backwards when pushing a button, and he cannot get enough pressure to work a switch or button. This type of toilet can use alternatives for activating the cleanse and dry facilities, though. My son has a soft pad, which he can press either between his hands, or with his foot (but he needs a step to rest the pad on, as his feet don't touch the ground :)).

    Here's a link to a similar toilet to the one we have:

    http://www.clos-o-mat.com/palma_shower_toilet.html

    I do agree, though, that the OT might say that a frame is more suitable for the OP's brother. If he cannot clean himself properly due to his weight, he might have to attend a weight management programme rather than have an expensive toilet fitted.

    Also, if any building works are carried out, including the installation of a specialist toilet, with the aid of a Disabled Facilities Grant, and your brother chooses to move out, he may be liable for the costs if he moves within five years.
  • LetItBe_2
    LetItBe_2 Posts: 37 Forumite
    Thanks for the info guys I think we will try a special toilet seat see how that goes as I wasnt aware building works would be involved!

    That palma shower toilet does it close the lid itself? Is the dry air automatic after elbowing the flush button?
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