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PaulF81

There is a difference between supporting the offspring of the poor, and actually encouraging them to breed faster than the better off. It would tend to reduce the quality of the population over a period of time.

Yet that's exactly what Socialist so called progressive wealth redistribution acheives. Why socialism is endemically bad for the longer term health of a country. And no coincidence that 2 generations after the birth of the welfare state, we are now reaping the 'rewards'.

Tim minchent has a good song he sings about the pope by the way.

pqrdef

ILW wrote: »

There is a difference between supporting the offspring of the poor, and actually encouraging them to breed faster than the better off. It would tend to reduce the quality of the population over a period of time.

Well now we see where you're coming from. But is there any evidence that poverty is genetic?

ILW

pqrdef wrote: »

Well now we see where you're coming from. But is there any evidence that poverty is genetic?

Doubt if there is genetic evidence, but there is statistical evidence.

ruggedtoast

ILW wrote: »

Doubt if there is genetic evidence, but there is statistical evidence.

Which explains why countries like China and India, that were dirt poor a generation ago, are leaping past us in GDP now.

Honestly, the misinformed, prejudiced, tripe that has been spouted on this thread is just pathetic. It would even make a bunch of UKIP supporters in a closed branch meeting shuffle their Daily Mails in embarrassment.

Why dont you all just move on to discussing how fascism would provide a solution to all these left wing problems you hate, its obviously what you all of you want to say anyway.

Percy1983

ILW wrote: »

Doubt if there is genetic evidence, but there is statistical evidence.

I don't think in is genetic but is learned behaviour, I grew up and mum and dad worked, I grew up seeing that as the norm and am now living by said norm.

Meanwhile there is children who have xboxs and nice TVs to play them on and they have never see mum and dad lift a finger apart from to sign benefits forms, what are they going to see as the norm and most probably follow?

ILW

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Which explains why countries like China and India, that were dirt poor a generation ago, are leaping past us in GDP now.

Honestly, the misinformed, prejudiced, tripe that has been spouted on this thread is just pathetic. It would even make a bunch of UKIP supporters in a closed branch meeting shuffle their Daily Mails in embarrassment.

Why dont you all just move on to discussing how fascism would provide a solution to all these left wing problems you hate, its obviously what you all of you want to say anyway.

The reason China and especially India are leaping on is that they practise a policy of survival of the fittest, where the least able tend to die out. Their success is nothing to do with encouraging the least able to breed faster than the more able.

The way to a bigger house and better living standard is through financial success, not through just increasing the size of ones family.

pqrdef

ILW wrote: »

Doubt if there is genetic evidence, but there is statistical evidence.

Can't think what. Statistically, a large majority of the male population used to be manual labourers, which means that unless we're really seriously posh we all have a family tree composed mostly of poor people.

bankhater_1965

ruggedtoast wrote: »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jul/12/families-overcrowding-spreads



More decent, hard working families forced to live in conditions the previous generation would have balked at.

its the EU standard didnt you no ?

Percy1983

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Which explains why countries like China and India, that were dirt poor a generation ago, are leaping past us in GDP now.

Do you want to divide that GDP by the number of people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita

Doesn't look as great now, but hey lets just keep paying chavs to breed and we will be down there with China and India in no time!

bankhater_1965

The reason China and especially India are leaping on is that they practise a policy of survival of the fittest, where the least able tend to die out. Their success is nothing to do with encouraging the least able to breed faster than the more able.

policy of survival !! is that were they leave new born babies in the gutters when there carnt afford or surplus to stock ? barbarick practises