Preparedness for when

Popperwell

The other night around 7pm there were some teenagers drinking booze outside the local Aldi's I had to engage but decided it worse not to do so then they could not say that I was being snobish/standoffish and by passing a few words it avoids possible ill feeling.

Then again, they probably would not have done anything they were just being teenagers...

It was the usual "You alright mate?" I rarely see what I could ever call aggressive behaviour.

pineapple

ALIBOBSY wrote: »

No disrespect to men, but I do think women have a heightened sense, perhaps a result of being the weaker sex so to speak.

No disrespect to men (who I know get attacked) but I think we are the more vulnerable sex - not necessarily on account of weakness. I've been followed and I've been 'approached' and I've even been assaulted twice (fortunately not serious). One was 'stranger danger' and one was somebody I knew! I know several women who have had 'encounters' and consequently I think we have an inbuilt waryness which I don't think many men could understand. It's there when I go lumping across the fields with my dog, it's there when I go through a local wooded area. Maybe I shouldn't do these things but I refuse to have my life overly curtailed. We each set the bar at a different point. I wouldn't go camping in the middle of nowhere on my own, I wouldn't walk through Bradford city centre on my own after closing time.
As for learning routines for protection/survival it's definitely not ott. As a young teen I got swept out to sea on the North East coast (and eventually was rescued). The first feeling was panic and the second was astonishment. Because these things always happen to other people! Yes I was a prize numpty to get myself into trouble in the first place but miraculously everything I had been taught and practiced for such a scenario subsequently kicked in. Otherwise Pineapple wouldn't be here now!

RAS

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

It is for this reason, that some people remain rooted to their seats, when they could escape, by merely standing up and walking 20 feet.

Does anyone remember the teenage girl who walked out of the Amazon jungle a week or more after a plane disintegated at altitude, with an injury that should have crippled her?

The search parties had given up but used her description of the journey to find the plane. Some other passengers survived, at least one for several days with no major identifiable injury. They died still strapped in their seats!

With respect to pineapple's comment - IME camping in the middle of nowhere is surprisingly safe; murderers and rapists tend not to congregate in the middle of nowhere on the vague chance that a prospect might turn up sometime in the next few months/years. For them a big city offers far more opportunities.

nuatha

pineapple wrote: »

No disrespect to men (who I know get attacked) but I think we are the more vulnerable sex - not necessarily on account of weakness.

As a male, I'd agree. The general perception is that females are "easier" targets - no disrespect intended to anyone, I'm well aware that perception and reality are two very different things.
The times I've been attacked were all a case of a group of drunks looking for trouble and deciding they were collectively brave enough to tackle a bigish bloke.

I've been followed and I've been 'approached' and I've even been assaulted twice (fortunately not serious). One was 'stranger danger' and one was somebody I knew! I know many women who have had 'encounters' and consequently I think we have an inbuilt waryness which I don't think many men could understand. It's there when I go lumping across the fields with my dog, it's there when I go through a local wooded area. Maybe I shouldn't do these things but I refuse to have my life overly curtailed. We each set the bar at a different place. I wouldn't go camping in the middle of nowhere on my own, I wouldn't walk through Bradford city centre on my own after closing time.

If we never took any risk we wouldn't get out of bed. Setting the bar at a level that suits you is important, not letting fear ruin your life is also important.

As for learning routines for protection/survival it's definitely not ott. As a young teen I got swept out to sea on the North East coast and had to be rescued. Yes I was a prize numpty to get myself into trouble in the first place but miraculously everything I had been taught kicked in. Otherwise Pineapple wouldn't be here now!

Which to me is the point of prepping - being a prepper doesn't mean you won't need outside help, it means increasing your chances of survival until that help can get there.

RAS

nuatha

Statistically younger men are far more likely to be attacked than women and I believe that men generally are more likely to be subject to violence.

Just women are all encouraged to cower in our homes by the media, social pressure and to some extent the police ("we ask women not to go out alone... "comes after a lot of attacks).

I have been attacked and prior experience kicked in; I was not going to be able to get away physically but I could distract and I could raise Cain, so I did. For just long enough for the cavalry to arrive...

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Rather than scream "HELP" or "RAPE", scream "FIRE".

More people tend to respond.

nuatha

RAS wrote: »

Does anyone remember the teenage girl who walked out of the Amazon jungle a week or more after a plane disintegated at altitude, with an injury that should have crippled her?

1971? LANSA 508 Remarkable tale of a young lady who remembered and did what she'd been taught.

With respect to pineapple's comment - IME camping in the middle of nowhere is surprisingly safe; murderers and rapists tend not to congregate in the middle of nowhere on the vague chance that a prospect might turn up sometime in the next few months/years. For them a big city offers far more opportunities.

I'd agree, though this brought to mind a post from Grey Queen recently about a sudden departure from a camp site.

RAS

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

Rather than scream "HELP" or "RAPE", scream "FIRE".

More people tend to respond.

I kept telling myself that but do not think there were any words.

RAS

nuatha wrote: »

1971? LANSA 508 Remarkable tale of a young lady who remembered and did what she'd been taught.

yep, that was the one

I'd agree, though this brought to mind a post from Grey Queen recently about a sudden departure from a camp site.

Ahh - missed that

was thinking of this http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Loch+Reasort&hl=en&sll=58.045225,-6.979675&sspn=0.08213,0.264187&oq=loch+reas&t=h&hnear=Loch+Reasort&z=13

nuatha

RAS wrote: »

nuatha

Statistically younger men are far more likely to be attacked than women and I believe that men generally are more likely to be subject to violence.

I'm delighted to be corrected. Having looked at a couple of sites, men are three times as likely (as women) to get mugged or assaulted.

Just women are all encouraged to cower in our homes by the media, social pressure and to some extent the police ("we ask women not to go out alone... "comes after a lot of attacks).

I have been attacked and prior experience kicked in; I was not going to be able to get away physically but I could distract and I could raise Cain, so I did. For just long enough for the cavalry to arrive...

Pleased the cavalry arrived in time.
I agree media and social pressure aren't helpful.