Preparedness for when

GreyQueen

I'm thinking of some young lassies in the extended family, bright working-class girls in their late teens and early twenties. Who won't be going to uni (too poor and too terrified of debt) and who haven't yet been able to get more than part-time cleaning and shop work. Maybe, with fewer people scrambling for jobs and driving down pay, they might be able to command a living wage, enough hours and to find somewhere affordable to live? As in, live like adults.

Just a thought.........

One unexpected outcome to the EU referendum campaign seems to be that my truly obnoxious Lithuanian neighbours (privately-owned flat rented to them, even their landlord has them on final warning, he has told the rest of us) have stopped partying most nights to the wee hours with several tens of their compatriots in attendance. And the Police in attendance on most nights, too. Perhaps they'll burger-off back to their own country quite soon? I'd wave them off without a tear in my eye.

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GQ,MMP & MLW I will there was a very large pat on the back for you all for what you have written.

I too remember being promised a butter mountain and a wine lake and even believe or not cheap gas from the new gas fields in the
North Sea.We were promised that life would be amazing, and as we had to wait until President de Gaulle had snuffed it to get all these goodies.

Ted Heath promised us the world in our hand, and we ended up with the 'winter of discontent' and a three day week with lights going out all over the country. I voted agin these things in 1975 and I have spent the last 40 odd years seeing our beautiful country being ruled by imbeciles in Brussels and the Uk kow-towing to the french and germans

So if the pampered youngsters who think they have been robbed have the hump, tough luck matey work harder get off your backsides and make this country the great place to live it once was before we all get entangled with the corrupt EU

Okay so we will have a few hardships,nothing that we haven't got through before.
Europe has caused more than enough grief to the citizens of the Uk over the 20th century.

milasavesmoney

Mojisola wrote: »

Does anyone really believe that Donald Trump and his ilk will 'listen to the people' once they are in power?

Good point. I don't.
I was just saying I agree that there comes a time to say enough! Today is not about anything but the brave UK voters. I only gave an example that concurred with the poster.

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I'm not going to say how I voted, that's only between me and God, but I've lived in Europe and know that people are just people, just like us. Life was good while we were there but it wasn't home. There will be jobs there so if the opportunity crops up I would say give it a try, the language or rather the lack of much of it wasn't as big a problem as I thought it would be, most European nations speak extremely good English and mostly were, back in the 1990s, disposed to be friendly when the found we were English. It was a lovely couple of years but it was nice to get back to the UK where I understood how the 'systems' worked, particularly the education and the NHS both of which were 'different' where we lived. There will be companies relocating as a result of the leave decision and I really would say if you are offered the opportunity to go and experience life on the continent rather than stay in a UK that would be so different to your expectations that life in Europe would be worth a gamble and may be the life you wanted here .

mardatha

See, there's a huge difference between being zenophobic and wanting less immigrants. Because this is an island - and if we have too many people onnit it will sink. End of lol

nuatha

milasavesmoney wrote: »

My OH thinks Cameron is a chicken s**t for leaving. He said its like a child who can't have his way so he takes his toys and goes home. OH thinks that a real leader would see the country through its first shaky steps of being an independent country again. He was throughly disgusted at what he sees as cowardice. (All this from a guy who never says anything about politics, but thinks that people should live up to their responsibities) I'll tell him, now that I have read many of your responses to Cameron resigning, that it's not being viewed as a bad thing.

Cameron is staying long enough for the transition in leadership. He was never going to do anything else. He announced prior to the last general election he would not run for a third term, which means he was going in the next 18 months regardless of the referendum result. (To give sufficient time for his successor to settle in and have a decent chance at winning the next general election.) He could have just quit, that would be traditional after a defeat of this magnitude.
I am not a Cameron fan by any stretch of the imagination, though I suspect his successor will be even less popular.

jk0 wrote: »

Haynes Manuals eh? Anyone used one? (Home mechanic's bible).

I've had a little problem with my car lately. Unfortunately for some reason many parts aren't routinely changed at service time, so mine has managed to slip through without new fuel or air filters since it was new ten years ago. (It's been serviced 5 times but only done 31,000 miles.)

I'd be changing the people who serviced the car, service intervals are written as x miles or y time. Modern synthetic oils may well be good for 60,000 miles or 5 years, but I'm not aware of any oil and filter combination that is good for 10 years. (nor air filters for that matter).

lobbyludd

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

I can't alter the result and I'm sorry you are as upset about it as you are. My childhood didn't contain much chocolate or comfort, we were church mouse poor and life was Spartan and hard and not filled with happiness either. We managed to survive on very little and that's what I meant by Chocolate and comfort. I'm a just after the war baby and was born at the beginning of 1948 when it was a bitterly hard winter, that winter seemed to last until I was old enough to work and earn and gain a little independence, I hold that independence very, very dear and I know we'll thrive as a nation whether we stay or whether we leave because we have the strength to do so whatever the situation throws our way and we'll make good what we DO have, life will go on!

my mother was born the same year as you, in a very poor family in the north of england (my grandfather spent a lot of her youth in a tb sanatorium pre the full welfare state) life was very tough, she was fiercely independent, had us very young (I'm a genXer too) and we were no strangers to poverty growing up or it's "character building" properties. she wanted better for her children and the generations that followed her, she voted in the last referendum and was a proud believer that a europe politically bonded and financially intertwined protected the weakest amongst us from the extremes of each end of the political spectrum, here and on the continent. She hated pretty much everything you have talked about here - the lack of housing, jobs, hope for ordinary people, but laid that firmly at the door of the elected British governments who put the policies in place all on their own bringing these things about (can't remember an enormous deal of kowtowing to Germany on on right-to-buy or university fees).

She unfortunately died a few months ago so did not get to vote - but would have been a firm remain.

It is not that I don't get where people are coming from, it is simply that I believe there were different causes and better solutions to them than this.

However, leave won, they clearly had an exceptional campaign that played well to the core feelings of just over 52% of the country. It is not the result I wanted but it is as it is, and we now have to move forward with the majority decision and try and heal our bitterly divided country.

A little magnanimity in victory would probably help with that?

Edit - lol - I'll stop interrupting the boys car discussions (? apologies if I've got that wrong - assumption from previous posts)

jk0

Thanks Nuatha. It's always been done at main dealers because I like to have genuine parts fitted. I guess no-one looks at your service book to see what's been done previously. I didn't myself until a couple of weeks ago.

Still, you live & learn, eh?

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milasavesmoney wrote: »

I'll tell him, now that I have read many of your responses to Cameron resigning, that it's not being viewed as a bad thing.

A least by resigning, he can't maliciously f**k up the country, just to prove his doomsday predictions right.

Now if we can just get rid of George "TOETWAWKI" Osborne too.

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I don't know that I see it as 'won' petal, it's democracy working the way it should, the alternative to that being a dictatorship where there would be no choice at all. I know there is so much uncertainty now but when has there been certainty in any of our lives? Whatever comes from the decision taken by the nation yesterday the British peoples do have a strength of character and mostly a work ethic that will make the future a good one for all of us. We're made of good stock us Brits and don't like being underdogs, we'll make good what we find and it will be OK!