Preparedness for when

maryb

It's Osborne who should be for the high jump first. He is a disgrace! No Chancellor with any integrity could seriously talk about a punishment budget when he ought to be applying all the stimulus he can dredge up in those circumstances. And as for saying redundancies could start as early as Friday...!!!

I have always had a low opinion of the man but it seems he is actually capable of sinking in my estimation.

Oh and he hasn't fixed the public finances by a long shot. He actually missed his target again last month.

Ken Clarke, for all his misguided Euro enthusiasm, did actually fix things - although Norman Lamont never got the credit he should have done for getting a long way towards it after the mess of ERM exit

Cappella

With apologies I'm bowing out from this thread until next week at the earliest.
I'm voting to remain. I'm neither hiding, nor ashamed of my vote. I made the decision based on the possible environmental impact of our leaving and I stand by that decision.
I've never voted Tory in my life (I vote Green, and I'm not ashamed of stating that either). I hold no brief for either David Cameron, Boris Johnson or any of the other B list celebrities who've given us the benefit of their views on this issue.
There will be no celebration here, whichever way the vote swings. I would celebrate if a cure for Parkinson's disease was ever found, or if the Syrian situation was suddenly resolved (highly unlikely though that is ever to happen.) I would celebrate any event, national or international which heralded an improvement in the quality of life for people.
But the result of tomorrow's referendum, whatever it is, will inevitably hurt, not help, some people and so I will not celebrate it.
I hope we'll share discussions and views again in the future. But for the moment perhaps a break is, for me, for the best.

Karmacat

Cappella, you must do what's right for you, of course, but please come back. Your presence is appreciated.

mrs-moneypenny

Cappella, Id sooner you didn't go, I wish you well and hope you do return soon. everyone has an equal vote and it is for them alone to decide how to use it. I'm not forcing my views or opinions on others just voicing them. You are perfectly entitled to do the same.

No one really knows what the result will be yet or the consequences we will have to live with whatever happens either way. I want what is best for the country as a whole and want us all to be successful. Everyone has their own opinion on how that will be achieved.

GreyQueen

Cappella, please don't feel that you need to go. There will be tens of millions of Remainers - hell, my kid brother is one of them and we're still talking.:)

maryb

MY DH and I will cancel each other out but we both agree with you Capella inasmuch as we agree that whatever way it goes, it won't be unalloyed good news. Status quo not on the menu.

nuatha

GreyQueen wrote: »

Politically, Cameron is a dead man walking, whether he accepts it yet or not. But he'll have his former prime-ministerial pension-for-life and his family wealth to comfort him.

He has been since before the last election, his announcement that he would not contend a third election as leader has meant it was just a matter of when, regardless of the outcome on Friday its still a question of when.

Cappella wrote: »

With apologies I'm bowing out from this thread until next week at the earliest.
I'm voting to remain. I'm neither hiding, nor ashamed of my vote. I made the decision based on the possible environmental impact of our leaving and I stand by that decision.

I respect your decision, though I regret you feel the need to step back for a while.
I've avoided stating which way I'm voting deliberately, largely because I firmly believe that everyone should make their own mind up and vote whichever way they believe offers the best outcome - I also believe we're in the position of choosing the lesser of two evils and that neither option will solve the issues that the media and politicians are shouting about - most of which aren't the issue the referendum is going to decide.

thriftwizard

I've avoided stating which way I'm voting deliberately, largely because I firmly believe that everyone should make their own mind up and vote whichever way they believe offers the best outcome - I also believe we're in the position of choosing the lesser of two evils and that neither option will solve the issues that the media and politicians are shouting about - most of which aren't the issue the referendum is going to decide.

Hear hear!

RAS

Ditto nuatha

Capella do speak; I'm off in the morning to make my mark and then what will be will be. Then we need to learn how to live with each other. No wonder Germany bans; Hitler used them to consolidate his power.

milasavesmoney

RAS wrote: »

No wonder Germany bans; Hitler used them to consolidate his power.

Hi RAS, I've been able to follow the different views and opinions fairly well concerning the vote tomorrow, but got totally lost as to what this statement means?