Preparedness for when

nuatha

NewShadow wrote: »

Misc - not for use this trip, but I want to carry them for the weight/bulk
Fishing weights, line, hooks (c.300g)
(still looking to source some stiff wire)

A florist may well be able to help, failing that a old fashioned model or arts shop - in which case ask for armature wire.

(Still could do with picking up a new pocket knife - looking at the Opinel No 8)

I know people who would regard the 10 as essential (corkscrew) but I've been considering the 9. The wire cutter notches on the base of the blade rather than the screwdriver bits.
Though I'm less of a fan of folding knives, in the UK they cause a less potential problems.

What do you think? I'm trying not to take anything that won't last 6 months in a bag.

I'm guessing at calorie requirements, not sure how much I'd be bringing home - one of the reasons for the test.

I want a selection of food that doesn't need 'cooking', just in case, but don't want it to be too much.

Same with the sweet v's savoury.

I'm debating the weight/worth of a carton of UHT so I can take teabags :rotfl:

I remember an instant white tea being introduced to the market, unfortunately it was PG which I am not a fan of, no idea if its still available.
I'll happily drink tea black, but possibly one of the powered milks?

NewShadow wrote: »

No. I'm planning on using the kelly kettle to heat water and start some coals, then dig an actual fire pit - stone lined, for the week.

I don't like the idea of carrying hex blocks or spirit. Or more accurately don't like the idea of them sitting in a rucksack for 6 months.

I do carry a hex stove on my BOB, outside pocket and vacuum packed.

comeandgo wrote: »

Grey queen, you do get a cheese substitute in a tube in uk. We use it to put on oatcakes when backpacking. Also condensed milk in a tube, lovely at any time.

Primula mentioned above.
Nestle and Carnation make condensed milk in tubes, I've seen the later in Tesco - and resisted looking anywhere else.

GreyQueen

Yeah, I wouldn't use earplugs. I was once astonished to read about someone who thought that if they were in some kind of emergency shelter they'd ear-plug, eye shade and take something to help them sleep.

I certainly wouldn't consider any of those things wise, our senses are there to alert us to potential trouble. I used to be a fairly heavy sleeper but living in the mad world of Shoebox Towers has cured me of that. I can sleep through a thunderstorm, which astonishes SuperGran, but even the slightest unexplained unnatural noise will wake me.

I would take a cloth eyeshade camping, tho, especially as it will be light very very early in May and the light coming through your tent could wake you a lot earlier than you'd like.

craigywv

in my work land of poond {god I sound like I am advertising them) I AM NOT we selling 20 of those uht serving,small white tub thingys you get in some takeaway cafes for your tea also same amount of tubs but in a creamy stuff for yor coffee these would be far lighter to carry than a big tub of long life milk. in fact in future I not mention shop I will just say "where I work" as I think I even sound like I'm advertising it lol,just like to help you out xxx

NewShadow

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

If these are to help you sleep, I wouldn't recommend it, especially in a SHTF situation.

Even when asleep, you need to be alert to things happening around you, such as a search vehicle/aircraft passing near by, so you can signal your presence to them.

You wouldn't want to sleep through it, and miss being rescued.

Thinking more to a controlled evacuation situation - being stuck in the local church hall with 50 other people and needing some shuteye.

NewShadow

nuatha wrote: »

A florist may well be able to help, failing that a old fashioned model or arts shop - in which case ask for armature wire.

Thanks, will do.

I know people who would regard the 10 as essential (corkscrew) but I've been considering the 9. The wire cutter notches on the base of the blade rather than the screwdriver bits.
Though I'm less of a fan of folding knives, in the UK they cause a less potential problems.

I don't drink anything with a cork as a rule, so a corkscrew wouldn't be essential.

I've got my leatherman for wire cutters, and a pair of trauma shears (decent ones) in my first aid kit.

I've had a knife since I was about 14, but I need to admit my current (4+yr) one has been sharpened once too many times - you could use it as a oyster knife

Plus, the number 8 just looks nice...

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NewShadow wrote: »

Fishing weights, line, hooks (c.300g)

I'd throw in a spool of 2mm nylon cord, to go with the fish hooks.

Something like this.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/2MM-NYLON-BLIND-CORD-50M/dp/B006JMC8US/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1459685905&sr=8-5&keywords=2mm+nylon+cord

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NewShadow wrote: »

I'm debating the weight/worth of a carton of UHT so I can take teabags :rotfl:

I'd suggest powdered milk instead.

You can carry a hell of a lot more, for the same weight.

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NewShadow wrote: »

Plus, the number 8 just looks nice...

Falls foul of UK law, in two regards.

1. Blade is too long.

2. Blade is lockable.

I know it's ridiculous (you can just as easily cause injury/death with a 2" bladed folding knife), but the law is the law, and, for an everyday carry, it saves a lot of hassle, if the knife falls outside the restrictions.

For an everyday carry, I have this, which lives in my jacket pocket.

NewShadow

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

Falls foul of UK law, in two regards.

1. Blade is too long.

2. Blade is lockable.

And if I wanted it for everyday carry you would be completely right - perfectly legal as part of my camping kit with my axe and saw though =

Given where I work, a EDC pocket knife of any length is inadvisable.

I'd suggest powdered milk instead.

You can carry a hell of a lot more, for the same weight.

Blegh. I'd rather just not have tea...

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NewShadow wrote: »

Given where I work, a EDC pocket knife of any length is inadvisable.

That's unfortunate, as SHTF situations don't always wait for you to get kitted up.

Personally, I'd feel naked, without a folding knife in my pocket.