Preparedness for when

ivyleaf

NewShadow wrote: »

It's probably referring to the 'green subsidies' we're all paying as part of our bills (and council tax).

Part of this (very little) goes towards the development of new energy systems.





http://www.uswitch.com/gas-electricity/guides/green-subsidies/#step4

Yes, that does sound like it! Thanks NewShadow. I'd forgotten about those subsidies.

ETA Thank you for posting, culpepper - I agree with every word!

mardatha

Sainsburys Basics candles are cheap, I forget exactly how much but I bought a load of them. Ikea tealights too, and you can cook/make tea on them if you place an old mesh grill thingy on top of a circle of them- but you need at least 9 to get enough heat. Balance it on something to raise it just above the flames, I use wee tins of mackerel or sardines because they are just the right height. It does take time so don't wait until you're fainting with hunger or dying for tea lol

COOLTRIKERCHICK

Newshadow, I am sure Mrs LW ( might be wrong sorry) bought a solar powered lamp/ reading light from IKEA, I was going to buy one, but didn't get round to it.. Don't know if they still do them.

Yes I remember about the fish sarga.. Who flipping maf was that!!! Also there is more waste fish with this quota business than ever, as once they have caught their EU quota of x fish this they catch anymore of x fish while fishing for other species the fish have got to be thrown back, and most of them are dead. So what a bloody waste... Madness!!!!

Wernt the EU trying to ban our banger once upon a time??

jk0

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

. Who flipping maf was that!!!

It was when we joined the EEC on New Year's Day 1973. I believe the story goes that they changed the rules after Ted Heath agreed to go in. This only happened over Christmas 1972, as they knew parliament was dissolved, and there was no way it could be debated.

Frugalsod

NewShadow wrote: »

You're right about postage - £7.50!

Is there anything else that would be worth buying for my prep draw to make the postage a little more worthwhile?

I would look at bedding. If it got really cold just throw on another duvet. Towels are good for many things and so I would say do not think purely prepping but things that you think you will make good use off in the next few years even as gifts. You could always buy thousands of tea lights and give some as presents when the SHTF, especially to family.

mardatha

They have nice wee lanterns for £2..

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Yes I've got several solar lamps/lanterns that I got in Ikea, the best are like a reading light and called SUNNAN but they are no longer made, I've seen them on Fleabay though. I didn't see the latest incarnation called SOLVINDEN on my last visit to the store but I didn't really go into the lighting section so they might still be there. The new ones are a hanging lantern style light that can also be turned upside down and used as a table light, under £15 and they all recharge in daylight, not necessarily bright sun, on a windowsill which is where we store ours and then they are all fully charged up for when and if we need them. Lots safer than candles and once you've made the initial purchase outlay completely free to run!!!

The solar panels come with 3 rechargeable batteries in them and are going to last for a minimum of 500 full recharges. When the batteries (AA size) wear out they can be replaced with new ones and keep the lamp going ad infinitum!

thriftwizard

My Sunnans are still going strong, but one of the two Solvindens I bought last year has turned up its toes already. Didn't seem to like getting wet, although it's supposed to be OK for outside use.

NewShadow

culpepper wrote: »

I am interested to know how fishing and farming would be affected by leaving because they have deteriorated to almost nothing since we have been members.

Does anyone remember the fishermen saying they were not allowed to fish their own waters but must watch foreign fishing vessels moving in and helping themselves ?

No nation state has ever held a referendum and then left the EU.

But there is one part of one country that has gone through the process of getting out - Greenland, one of Denmark's overseas territories and the world's largest island that is not a continent. It staged a referendum in 1982 after gaining a high degree of self-government from Denmark.

Greenlanders voted 52/48 to leave the EU. There followed a series of difficult and protracted negotiations between the Greenland and Danish governments, and the Danish government and the European Commission, particularly with regard to fisheries...

... Greenlandic fishermen resented being told by Brussels how much fish they could take out of their own waters and watching their fish stocks being hoovered up by EU factory trawlers.

Henrik Leth, who chairs the largest privately-run fishing company in Greenland - Polar Seafood, said there was a noticeable change for the industry after leaving the EU. "We built up, and now have a very powerful industry," he said...

...In return for allowing continued European access to its waters, Greenland was given tariff-free access to the Community market for fisheries products. It also got EU funding on top of the money it received and continues to receive from Denmark.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35233683

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NewShadow wrote: »

Can anyone recommend the best/cheapest place to stock up on basic white candles?

The £-shops sell them, from time to time.

A while ago, they were selling boxes of eight, 8" household candles.

Asda sell tapered "table" candles, @ £2 for a box of 10.

IIR Ikea used to do bags of 30 tealights for £1ish, but I can see them on the website (it was about 10 years ago...)

Asda sell 100 tealights, for £2.

If you want candles in bulk, check out Amazon.

Here's 160 (7.5 hour burn time), for under 24p each, including delivery.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/household-candles-Burning-Dornloch-Gastrokerzen/dp/B00HURZ632/ref=sr_1_32?ie=UTF8&qid=1456777866&sr=8-32&keywords=household+candles