Preparedness for when

ivyleaf

Newsround has a piece on this, and they also have advice for children on what to do if they read or hear news that upsets them.

HTH any of us with young children/grandchildren.

Karmacat

ivyleaf wrote: »

Newsround has a piece on this, and they also have advice for children on what to do if they read or hear news that upsets them.

HTH any of us with young children/grandchildren.

Thanks for that, ivyleaf - I've done a bit of a search in general for that, and I'll go on youtube soon.

[Deleted User]

Am I alone in when walking outside looking for safe escape routes and places to shelter should anything kick off while I'm there? The first thing I saw on the news this morning when I got up was the terrible and barbaric attacks in Paris and it sickens me to my soul that human beings can do things like that to other human beings, there can be no justification no cause no religion no reason to kill, maim and destroy human life, I'm not particularly religious but I cannot conceive of a God who would reward humans for wanton killing sprees, nor give the perpetrators rewards in his heaven for their actions. It is a day when I'm ashamed to be part of the human race!

Nargleblast

You may be part of the human race Mrs LW but those pond scum are not.

[Deleted User]

It makes me ask myself the question 'Who do you really know?' these terrorists must have been living in communities in France, living ordinary lives and doing ordinary everyday things and appearing normal, how on earth could anyone know they would do such evil things or be able to take steps to stop them?

I've just read online that Gatwick North Terminal has been evacuated this morning and police have arrested a man with a gun in his bag and what they think is a live grenade.....interesting times? !

[Deleted User]

Ryanna2599 wrote: »

these are the burn plasters I have in my preps and I can vouch they work

Don't forget people that, good as burn plasters/dressings are, the first step in treating a burn, is to drench in cold water, for 10 minutes.

pineapple

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

It makes me ask myself the question 'Who do you really know?' these terrorists must have been living in communities in France, living ordinary lives and doing ordinary everyday things and appearing normal

But also - this was reported on the news - a Syrian passport was allegedly found on one attacker. First it would be surprising if a few militants had not slipped in amongst the refugees. Certainly this attack had the hallmarks of a coordinated military action - possibiy executed by incomers who therefore weren't on any terrorist watchlist. But imo the real issue is that whether or not migrants are involved in any terrorism, it will raise ethnic and border tensions and the far right will get more popular. Plus we will doubtless see more security restrictions and intrusions and there could be a ramping up of military action in Syria etc.
I suspect we are going to see a lot more of this sadly but there will be wider ramifications aside from the immediate impact.

nuatha

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

I felt numb when we watched the news between 2.30am -3am this morning... ( we were up as one of pigs had piglets, so we were up making sure she didn't lay on them)

That sounds a good reason to me for a sleepless night, hope they're all doing well.

I honestly think the recent infux of do called refugees masked the ingress of terrorist...

I honestly think it's only a matter of time before all this will cross the channel to us..on the scale that is happening in paris

The refugees are fleeing the people responsible for this. It may well be that there are a handful of terrorists in among the refugees, its highly likely that the negative reactions to. some of the refugees will become recruiting aids for future terrorists. The vast majority will be decent human beings who just want a peaceful life.

Its already crossed the channel, the point of terrorist attacks isn't to kill people or claim a piece of land, its to strike fear and terror into the hearts of people; to make ordinary decent people behave in ways that spread the fear and distrust and then the brutality that breeds the next generation of terrorists. Very few people are killed by terrorists, but the impact of these attacks is immense.

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

Am I alone in when walking outside looking for safe escape routes and places to shelter should anything kick off while I'm there?

You aren't. Though I'm thinking I'm more likely to be at risk from fire, gas explosion or a crowd of football supporters (or this time of year Christmas shoppers and bargain hunters) than terrorist attack, a safe escape route or a place of safety is just as important.

The first thing I saw on the news this morning when I got up was the terrible and barbaric attacks in Paris and it sickens me to my soul that human beings can do things like that to other human beings, there can be no justification no cause no religion no reason to kill, maim and destroy human life, I'm not particularly religious but I cannot conceive of a God who would reward humans for wanton killing sprees, nor give the perpetrators rewards in his heaven for their actions. It is a day when I'm ashamed to be part of the human race!

The news is horrific and my heart goes out to those who have family and friends dead and injured by these attacks, but what makes me ashamed to be human is the reactions I'm seeing blaming all refugees or all Muslims or using these and previos atrocities as justifications for their own.

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

I've just read online that Gatwick North Terminal has been evacuated this morning and police have arrested a man with a gun in his bag and what they think is a live grenade.....interesting times? !

We've always lived in interesting times and a few years/decades of boredom might be fun, but humanity doesn't seem to be able to work that way.

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We watched a very touching interview yesterday on the BBC Breakfast News programme with a lovely young man who had come to the UK as a refugee from Somalia a few years ago trying to explain why people want to come to Europe, he said that his civil war torn country was divided now, one half ruled by a dictator who had been in power for 26 (I think) years and was totally controlling, no law, no justice no freedom and the other half was being attacked constantly by terrorist groups and he came here to the UK literally to save his life. He said something very telling and damning to the citizens of the UK though that also touched my heart and that is 'we face death by violence in our own country, we come here not to be kept but to be safe and to work and to make better lives for ourselves than we ever could in our home country but when we get here you kill us again with words, emotionally and mentally the words kill us as people as surely as the bullets back in Somalia' so blaming the refugees or the peaceful and law abiding Muslim citizens of this country is totally unjustified but until we DO know who is behind terror attacks it's human nature to want to find someone to blame isn't it? Doesn't make it right but is perhaps an explanation?

Frugalsod

Nargleblast wrote: »

Evil personified. May their 42 virgins all be riddled with syphilis.

May they all be elderly virgins.