Preparedness for when

Ryanna2599

Frugalsod wrote: »

Though current plans include a weeks stay on a desert island to really practise some bushcraft skills.

Frugalsod that sounds like a dream holiday! This web page may be of interest wrt trying your Bushcraft skills...as well as the rest of us if the power went out and we needed to start a fire: http://www.naturalnews.com/051681_fire_building_self-reliance_prepping.html

mardatha

I had a friend who lived in a slum just like in those pics- but she was happy and she coped with 2 babies fine. The kids played outside all day and came home tired out, eat what was put down to them and slept well. So I suppose its subjective. If that's the word I'm looking for lol
Ivyleaf I am RBS.
And GreyQueen apparently I'm in San Francisco too. I'll just nip out into the horrible cold heavy rain and tell the sheep they're in California.

Doveling

Funny how we view things, isn't it?

In the photos I saw love and family and children's freedom.
Albeit in grim surroundings and poverty stricken

MTSTM - note the date of the photos, these conditions were at the start of the 1970's! Not quite sure what you mean in your post about "normal decades"?
I think the "pill" became widely available in the 1960's, I could be wrong.

That's a prepping thought which I'm sure will have been mentioned at some point, contraception supplies for those that want or need them.:D

Karmacat

Yep, pill was widely available by the end of the 1960s ... those photos, you know, everything like that looks worse in black and white ... but the kids look thin and cold, thats true. And it was certainly a time when it was completely normal to play out on the street.

It was weird when I moved here 5 years ago (south of England, small town) - the kids here still do that! Its lovely to see.

moneyistooshorttomention

That's got me racking my brains - wondering how old I was exactly when I first told a doctor I wanted a prescription for the Pill. That would have been early 1970s and I seem to recall that some doctors were still having "views" on single women being prescribed it then - so it may well be that shotgun marriages were still happening to some extent??? My memory is vaguely telling me that, at that point in history, doctors at least expected you to be engaged in order to get it??? As I didn't even have a boyfriend at that moment and was just "being practical" that I couldn't have one till that was sorted out...hence I personally found it a bit difficult in the England of that era.

I got round that one - by just being in a more "modern" country not that long after that (ie a Scandinavian one) and telling a doctor there that I wanted it. Got it. Came back to England and just told the next doctor I saw that "I'm on Eugynon wotever-it-was and I need another prescription please" in a very matter-of-fact confident voice - and walked out with my prescription from then on no problem:rotfl:

EDIT; In fact I've just remembered a less-confident friend (of very much the same age as me) having had a shotgun marriage. I was there at the wedding...and...nope...it didn't work out.

fuddle

When I look at photo's like those I appreciate the work that William Beveridge did. Having identified 'Giant Evils' in society he went about trying to initiate reform didn't he?

Times for some are no where near as rough as what was experienced back then but I do believe that the 'giant evils' are as much to do with a person's outlook based on their experiences. In order to eradicate those 'evils' I feel support needs to be there to prop up folk in times of need so they don't psychologically fall into the above traps.

Many roll their eyes about the situation some of my generation are in at the moment - let your mind wander with stereotypes all you like - but the people living those stereotypes have had input from people of other generations, input from policy, have been molly coddled instead of being propped up for a short term and have been given to based on computer says yes without having the human element, the empathy, the drive and gee up etc.

Of course this is all my own opinion but I just feel that those that roll their eyes at the people of my generation who fulfil negative stereotypes are no different to the people who fulfilled them back in the 1940's and therefore we all have to look at our roll in society and accept responsibility. Molly coddling helps no one in the long term and is as damaging in terms of disease, squalor, ignorance, want and idleness as no support in the first place.

As a society we're stuck now I feel. Without the massive financial support those that would suffer without it, really would suffer. A country is only as strong as the support it gives to the needy and I think Beveridge had the right idea... I just think it's been skewed to the point of collapse. It's not individuals fault, it's everything that our society has become I feel.

So when there's eye rolls at individuals, their choices and their circumstances I get a bit 'humph'. They are victims of societies' evils as much as folks back in 1942 were, in my opinion.

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I think the biggest 'ill' in society today is people thinking it's their right to 'have it all', it leads to such feelings of resentment and skews thinking when it comes to sensible use of the resources available. We seem en masse to have got hold of the idea that you have to have everything everyone else has or you're poor deprived underdogs and that society 'owes' you. It's a sick society when even parents with kiddies at infant school feel the need to send them in 'designer' clothes and with the latest mobile phone because 'every one else has one and I don't want little Freddie to get picked on for having last years model', goodness our local primary school now even has a 'prom' for the 11 year olds going up to senior school and this summer I saw a couple of stretched limousines picking up overdressed and vastly over excited kids from the school gate on the last day of term, why on earth would you???

fuddle

Because parents born in the 70's, in my experience (generalising of course!) have been brought up in a society that 'You want? You can have, you deserve... and i'll pocket some as you get what you want "here!" Our whole economy is built on consumerism so yes, the 30-40 somethings think they should have, and do have and now their children should have because it feels good to the self esteem. It's not a very pleasant place to be but it's the normal for so many people I once knew.

The stretch limo's are coming from a good place, it's just skewed ideals. For me the very thought of putting make up on my 11 year olds face is not worth thinking about, let alone a prom dress etc but I can't say I would have thought that 6 - 10 years back. Definitely sobering. :cool:

mumps

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

That's got me racking my brains - wondering how old I was exactly when I first told a doctor I wanted a prescription for the Pill. That would have been early 1970s and I seem to recall that some doctors were still having "views" on single women being prescribed it then - so it may well be that shotgun marriages were still happening to some extent??? My memory is vaguely telling me that, at that point in history, doctors at least expected you to be engaged in order to get it??? As I didn't even have a boyfriend at that moment and was just "being practical" that I couldn't have one till that was sorted out...hence I personally found it a bit difficult in the England of that era.

I got round that one - by just being in a more "modern" country not that long after that (ie a Scandinavian one) and telling a doctor there that I wanted it. Got it. Came back to England and just told the next doctor I saw that "I'm on Eugynon wotever-it-was and I need another prescription please" in a very matter-of-fact confident voice - and walked out with my prescription from then on no problem:rotfl:

EDIT; In fact I've just remembered a less-confident friend (of very much the same age as me) having had a shotgun marriage. I was there at the wedding...and...nope...it didn't work out.

I first went on the pill in 1971, the only problem was it was expensive as you needed a private prescription for it. Shortly afterwards I found The Brook, no questions asked and all prescribed free.

I knew plenty of girls over the years who managed to get pregnant on the pill so not sure how many shotgun marriages it prevented. Funny when you think of the attitude to an unmarried mother then and now.

mardatha

I eloped at 16 and was on the pill the day after! I just went to my family doc and asked for it and got it. That was 1966.