Preparedness for when

armyknife

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Looking for sources of objective facts on the refugee situation and found analysis of origin of refugees etc:

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/asylum_statistics

which I shall have to have a good read of - as I gather the long story short is that only 1 in 5 of recent refugees are Syrians.

No MM, you've got that wrong:

Asylum applicants from Syria rose to 122 thousand in the EU-28 in 2014, which equated to 20 % of the total from all non-member countries.

In 2014 and recent aren't the same time periods.

armyknife

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

OK you all know that the isis, migrant situation is well and truely putting g the willies up me..

But a good topic to discuss is information/ news / media coverage of certain situations.

In reality are we better off knowi g exactly what is going on?? Just having snippets of information that they feed us on the BBC etc, or are we better off not having any information, and not being told what is happening in other parts of the world??

Knowing too much is scary, only knowing a little bit is scary and not knowing nothing potentially could be scary , but if we know nothing we got nothing to be scared of, as we don't know nothing until it happens lol

We all have to die some day. I think the chances of any of us being killed by a terrorist are tiny, say 1 in 1,000,000 a year.

I say you're more likely to be killed crossing the road, because of the added stress of worrying about terrorism has distracted one from carrying out day to day tasks safely.

ivyleaf

greenbee wrote: »

Look at for information on Ayurvedic medicine Mar. There's lots of useful stuff about spices. Turmeric is one, but I also used to use chillies and garlic to help with chronic pain issues. I can't remember the details but there is lots of information out there. I've got a book somewhere (I think... I may have kondo'd it a while ago as I no longer need it... I just eat a LOT of curries and spicy food from habit now!).

Thanks greenbee When we were on holiday in NZ my husband bought some ointment containing capsaicin, the thing that makes chillies hot. It was recommended by the pharmacist for arthritic pain in his knee, and it was very helpful!

GreyQueen

I'm not losing any rest over the possibility that some terrorists have secreted themselves amongst the refugees. Not because I don't believe they have; I think it highly probable that there will be a small percentage of undesirables amongst the crowds. A fraction of those undesirables may be terrorists, but it's more likely to be common criminality.

But, as others have pointed out, it's extremely unlikely to affect any of us as individuals and wanting, intending and planning a crime, whether terrorism or otherwise, doesn't guarantee the successful execution of that crime.

The greatest threats to your wellbeing will be your own health (heart disease, cancer and stroke), followed by road traffic accidents. You're more likely to be trampled to death by cows than blown up by a terrorist.

mardatha

I need to take spices in capsule supplements, not in food. I can't take anything spicy or the heartburn goes into orbit lol. TY greenbee

ivyleaf

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

They are saying that there could be up to 35 million migrants coming to Europe!!

I think we should be taking it for granted now, that there will be an isis cell heading towards Britain ( if not already here to interact with isis sympathisers here) and organising attacks etc..

I honestly think we should now seriously start thinking about our shopping habbits and the places where we go, its all well and good saying if you change your habbits, or are frightened they have won etc, BUT.. That it easy to say now, when we havnt had the potential full force of then in our country...

This is a prepping thread, for prepping for all scenarios etc.. And I think this one should now def be climbing to the top of our lists...

Edit...... Was trying to think if there is any special dates that they might use, anniversaries of deaths, leadership dates etc??

Thing is though CTC, many people are not able to change things like where they go, etc.

My daughter is a nurse at a well-known London hospital. She avoids the Tube since 7/7, and had always disliked it in any case, but are she and all her colleagues, for example, to say they're not going to work any more in case of an attack on a mainline station or a commuter train, or even the hospital?

We are near a big shopping centre; we don't go there very often (don't want to buy stuff! ) but we wouldn't avoid going there just on the off-chance that there might be an incident at the very hour we happen to be there.

armyknife

GreyQueen wrote: »

I'm not losing any rest over the possibility that some terrorists have secreted themselves amongst the refugees. Not because I don't believe they have; I think it highly probable that there will be a small percentage of undesirables amongst the crowds. A fraction of those undesirables may be terrorists, but it's more likely to be common criminality.

But, as others have pointed out, it's extremely unlikely to affect any of us as individuals and wanting, intending and planning a crime, whether terrorism or otherwise, doesn't guarantee the successful execution of that crime.

The greatest threats to your wellbeing will be your own health (heart disease, cancer and stroke), followed by road traffic accidents. You're more likely to be trampled to death by cows than blown up by a terrorist.

GQ, well said.

Yes cows, especially those with young can be tricky beasts, my friends have laughed at me when I'd decided not to cross fields containing dairy cattle, so I take a diversion; I like to play the percentages.

Cattle with young that I pass on by bike on the New Forest roads are to my mind are a significantly lower risk as I can give them the appropriate amount of room. Plus I see some of them so often I recognise them as individual animals and perhaps some recognise me in turn?

pineapple

I think we are missing the bigger picture. We can endlessly debate the stats ie what percentage are purely economic migrants, what percentage are purely war refugees and how many fall in a grey area in between. And we can debate how many might be ISIS operatives and the risk to us as indviduals - which I am sure is minuscule as GQ says.
However all it will take is just one terrorist incident planned by a migrant plus a handful of Daily Mail type stories about financial or other negative effects on the existing population and we have a recipe for major social unrest.
Never mind Cameron's pledge to take in refugees from camps, just wait till the incomers start filtering their way through Europe. We ain't seen nothing yet.
Back to the wider picture, look at the infighting that has started within Europe and consider the potential for disagreement amongst the superpowers re how to deal with Syria.
I live in the depths of nowhere so I guess I can be smug about the likelihood of any direct risks to or impact on myself. At least in the near future. But the situation is still cause for concern imo..

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I think we'll just have to wait and see what actually happens, it's no use whatsoever getting worked up over prospects, it's no use trying to second guess what might or possibly might happen. All we CAN do as preppers is keep on doing what we're doing now and keep on the alert for anything that happens locally to us, keep ourselves and those we love as safe as it's possible to do so, make sensible and thorough provision in material things like food, medication, water, bartering items, keep a low profile and concentrate on doing that, NOT spend all of life worrying about mights. All the energy spent being scared is better invested in being determined to survive!!!

lobbyludd

which is why we should be doing our utmost to remain calm, peaceful and rational in the face of widespread fear and try and see through the panic to the reality - which is that we are fine.

there are alot of "news" papers and outlets that I think should be prosecuted for false advertising and libel. they are owned by the super-rich. Why do the super-rich want the populace to be in fear and panic? not just about this but SARS, ebola, cancer, the young, single mothers, the subject is immaterial - but note the scare-mongering IS CONSTANT. why?

the super-rich have always kept the populace in its place using fear and panic over the threat of "others", either through their evil intent, or through their habits spreading disease, etc. I take it we have all heard of scape-goats?

I also think we need to get a grip - we are not the victims in this situation, we are all FINE. As far as prepping goes - the take-home message is that we should be building resilient communities that can cope with change. no?