Preparedness for when

ivyleaf

Upsidedown_Bear wrote: »

Flood was published in 2002 and made into a programme for TV in 2007.
Flood was an "update" of a book by him published in 1976 (before the Thames Barrier was built) called Deluge.

ivyleaf - maybe you read Deluge? I've recently read it

Ah, sounds as if you're probably right I don't think I've read it in that case.

I mean, it sounds as if it was Deluge I've read.

grandma247

Another candle heater

I have also seen a good one on u tube that used those metal hand warmers. They use gas like lighters need.

oldtractor

liking this thread and so many of the people on it especially GreyQueen and Ivyleaf. Go girls! your great.

mardatha

Currently battling health probs here but am starting to research herbs & spices for health... does anybody know anything about this? ie I read on a diabetic forum that cinnamon was great for diabetics, put the RV onto it, and his BG has come down into normal levels and stayed there for a few months now. Any old wives tales also gratefully received!

fuddle

cinnamon is magic fab for your skin mar, I rub it on with olive oil and honey as a gentle face exfoliator. Works for me and free from me cupboard.

I love using ingredients for health and beauty. It's thought rosemary can help strokes and Alzheimer's as there's something in it (an acid if I recall) that helps protect from free radicals.

daz278

"baxter wrote a book called "Flood" which spans decades , the premise is that underwater streams continuously raises the water level until the world is underwater .... stephen Baxter quite a good book....... just paid 200 quid for a new washer to go with my new kitchen , when its finished

Frugalsod

This was about the growing problems in US corporate pension plans.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-16/how-underfunded-are-us-corporate-pension-plans

The problems it is describing are happening here. It will mean that most people with a company pension scheme really need to worry about whether they can retire. It will only get worse if the central banks decide to try negative interest rates. Imagine saving for 40 years and getting a pension pot less than you put in before fees!

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I think that we are sailing in uncharted waters in most areas of life at the moment, there has never been such a number of refugees/migrants trying to enter European territories but there have been previous mass exoduses of millions of people before this, just after the end of WW2 millions of eastern German people migrated to western Germany because they were evicted by the occupying Russians, it was the largest population movement of displaced people within Europes history, there is constant and ongoing movement of millions of refugees throughout the whole of the African continent due to famine, drought ,wars ,political oppression, tribal differences . There are millions of displaced people all over the middle east in refugee camps who have been in those camps for years so the current situation is not unprecedented, it's just not been so close to home and affecting Europe. What the outcome of the current problem will be is an unknown but ALL of the European Union member countries will HAVE to stand up and be counted in an adult way and there will be a solution, there has to be a way of absorbing these poor displaced people into our countries because I don't think I can see a way to stop them coming.

I think that the keeping yourself safe from terrorist attacks mindset is always with us, certainly I never ever go into a crowded place be it a street, shopping centre, very large crowd, sporting venue etc. without first having decided what my exit plan will be if anything kicks off and as soon as I'm through the entrance I make a mental note of where all the exits are and which shops have exits through to the back and hopefully to a way out. However I had an experience on Tuesday afternoon which surprised me in my reaction to it. I'd arrived at DD2s to look after my grandson and popped out to a kitchen shop near where she lives andhad just come out to the street when I heard lots, and I do mean LOTS of sirens coming up the road towards me. The first thing that happened was the sight of motor cycle police with lights blazing too stopping the traffic on both sides of the road, leaving a very large gap, unfortunatelyp between DDs home and where I was. Then I became aware of the police helicopter overhead and could see coming towards me lots of 4x4 police vehicles and All of them had sirens and lights blazing, I didn't panic and neither did anyone else on the street that I could see but, we all without exception ducked into the nearest shop to us, it was instinctive to just get out of sight and out of the road. It was interesting to see the staff of the charity shop I'd ducked into come to the door with the keys in their hands and a couple of people were very shaken and convinced it was either a terror attack or a criminal gang on the rampage. Most folks stayed calm and wary but we all got as far away from the shop front as we possible could. What it actually was I don't know but police outriders, 8 x police landrovers, many police motor cycles and the police helicopter were accompanying an armoured black Mariah at considerable speed through the middle of a large city. I was surprised that I stayed as calm as I did, even more surprised at the sense everyone else showed and it was pretty scary while it happened.

ivyleaf

Me neither Mrs L. We are truly living in historic times, as it were. There's a sort of "Whatever's going to happen next?" feeling, I think. Or perhaps that's just me.

Hello oldtractor, how nice to "see" you :hello: Did you used to post on the Daily thread? I know I used to see your posts somewhere quite regularly and enjoyed them

daz That other "Flood" book sounds intriguing! I'll see if I can get hold of it, thank you

mar that's really interesting about the cinnamon! What do you do? Just sprinkle it on porridge?

armyknife

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

I think that we are sailing in uncharted waters in most areas of life at the moment, there has never been such a number of refugees/migrants trying to enter European territories but there have been previous mass exoduses of millions of people before this, just after the end of WW2 millions of eastern German people migrated to western Germany because they were evicted by the occupying Russians, it was the largest population movement of displaced people within Europes history, there is constant and ongoing movement of millions of refugees throughout the whole of the African continent due to famine, drought ,wars ,political oppression, tribal differences . There are millions of displaced people all over the middle east in refugee camps who have been in those camps for years so the current situation is not unprecedented, it's just not been so close to home and affecting Europe. What the outcome of the current problem will be is an unknown but ALL of the European Union member countries will HAVE to stand up and be counted in an adult way and there will be a solution, there has to be a way of absorbing these poor displaced people into our countries because I don't think I can see a way to stop them coming.

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LW, thanks for that.

I think this crisis won't have much to do with prepping, more impact on pan-European institutions and values.

But my final view on the subject is, there's a personal use one could use this crisis for, perhaps consider ones reactions to it as a 'mirror' within which to review some aspects of our own character?