Preparedness for when

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SpikyHedgehog wrote: »

I guess you put the lock & lock boxes through the dishwasher, Kittie? !

Not for dehydrated food. Everything is bone dry and stored in a cool dry place so I just take a box out of my store when I want one. I wash by hand when there has only been dried food in them and dishwash with the silicone separate when they have had liquid foods in them. Then I dry and air dry until completely dry all over. If you are worried, perhaps after keeping something like beef stock, then I would wash hot by hand and dip in milton, if I didn`t have a dishwasher

Re the refugees and economic migrants and worse: I read today that 4000 isis fighters are in europe. It was pretty obvious seeing the footage on tv
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/603797/Migrant-crisis-FAKE-Syrian-claim-asylum-Europe
I am scared as hell about all this, I read that isis want the whole world

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£50/55 compensation per property?

It would've been cheaper for UU, to issue every house with a Sawyer Squeeze Filter.

ALIBOBSY

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

£50/55 compensation per property?

It would've been cheaper for UU, to issue every house with a Sawyer Squeeze Filter.

Yep between £50 and £60 per property depending on how long you had to boil for.

We actually bought a Sawyer squeeze filter which helped in the last couple of weeks, so indirectly UU bought ours . But yes based on the household compensation plus the business compensation, cost of getting and installing the UV devices not to mention all the man hours defo cheaper to issue us all one of them right at the start :rotfl:

Ali x

SpikyHedgehog

kittie wrote: »

Not for dehydrated food. Everything is bone dry and stored in a cool dry place so I just take a box out of my store when I want one. I wash by hand when there has only been dried food in them and dishwash with the silicone separate when they have had liquid foods in them. Then I dry and air dry until completely dry all over. If you are worried, perhaps after keeping something like beef stock, then I would wash hot by hand and dip in milton, if I didn`t have a dishwasher....

Thank you

sb44

Sorry if this has already been posted along the way but just found quite a few disaster etc pdf's which may be of use.

Would be quite good to put on your Nook/Kindle in case you can't use your laptop, PC etc.

http://www.armageddononline.org/disaster-prep-help.html

1Tonsil

the fire is now under control, just hope they dampen it down enough to stop it flaring in the high winds tomorrow.

Frugalsod

ALIBOBSY wrote: »

Yep thanks we were in about the third group to get the boil water ban lifted, sooooooo much easier. MIL was in first group and they had their compensation this week, £50. We have been told we will be given £55, which given the disruption and all the bloody boiling seems a bit of an insult, but at least they are paying quickly. Just hope it doesn't happy again.


Ali

If you think about it £30 or less for a water filter against any water pay out and you could make a profit if they keep doing it.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

kittie wrote: »

Not for dehydrated food. Everything is bone dry and stored in a cool dry place so I just take a box out of my store when I want one. I wash by hand when there has only been dried food in them and dishwash with the silicone separate when they have had liquid foods in them. Then I dry and air dry until completely dry all over. If you are worried, perhaps after keeping something like beef stock, then I would wash hot by hand and dip in milton, if I didn`t have a dishwasher

Re the refugees and economic migrants and worse: I read today that 4000 isis fighters are in europe. It was pretty obvious seeing the footage on tv
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/603797/Migrant-crisis-FAKE-Syrian-claim-asylum-Europe
I am scared as hell about all this, I read that isis want the whole world

I heard from that too, by all accounts isis said they were going to send 5000 of their men over to the EU amongst the refugees to cause mayhem... I have said right from the begining the amount of young men in all the footage, and loads of people on fb have been saying this too, and strangely last night the BBC news were concentrating on the children... Etc..

I very rarely go into our local city... Our youngest works there, but I have told him the minute anything starts happening anywhere near our city.. He has got to stop working there .. Yes it might be an over reaction... But I am not taking any risks.. S@ d trying to live a normal life...I think those days are gone.. As if that was the case we wouldn't be prepping for SHTF times...

armyknife

1Tonsil wrote: »

Has anyone else been giving some thought to the difficulties volunteer hosts might face if they take the migrants into their homes? For instance, how long would they stay and who would provide the food to feed them and money to clothe them? Would you be expected to keep the house quiet while they pray several times a day? Would you ban pork from the house in order not to upset them? How on earth would you cope with the language barrier and the bureaucracy involved in helping them settle? I know these are strange thoughts, but I am a practical sort of person and I was thinking of the technicalities. I must admit, I find it difficult sometimes to cope with visitors who disrupt the household when they visit. The thought of having to cope with absolute strangers in the house makes me feel nervous.

Oh dear 1tonsil, concentrating on the negatives again?

Of the top of my head;

Not all Syrians are Muslims, there are a lot of Christians.

Before the civil war, Syria was one of the most secular ME countries, so I suspect a lot of these Syrian won't be planning on building their new lives entirely around a religion.

Given how much it's cost these refugees to get to Europe and through it, most of those coming are ones formerly relatively well off occupations and who'll tend to be more able to adapt to the new circumstance. Hence the prevalence of some English skills amongst many of the refugee families.

greenbee

There are good reasons that the majority of refugees who reach Europe are young men:

1. they are most able to survive what is a very difficult journey. Old people, small children and many women are simply not up to it.

2. Young men are most at risk during war. They are targeted for recruitment, and if they refuse they are likely to be murdered. This has already happened to my friend's brother-in-law and her husband's oldest friend.

Terrorists have won if they make you fear anyone different from you. How are you going to tell who 'might' be ISIS? Because they speak broken English? Because they have brown skin? Because they 'look' like a Muslim? How can the rest of the world reject millions of refugees because a few thousand of them MIGHT be terrorists? Yes, they need to try to screen, but ultimately we need to have compassion for the appalling plight of these people and do what we can to help.

Thankfully there ARE compassionate and decent people out there prepared to help. People are putting pressure on politicians. 10,000 Icelanders have offered to put refugees up in their own homes and pay for them to get to Iceland (this was after their government said they could take 50 people). There are people at the moment donating and collecting tents, sleeping bags, clothes etc to distribute to the people living in terrible conditions in Calais. (Not to mention the nearly 60,000 people who are offering to swap Katie Hopkins for refugees...)

At the end of the day, most of these people are just ordinary people who have been through terrible experiences we can't even begin to imagine. Should we condemn them to a life of fear, violence and the kind of terrible conditions that exist in bombed out cities or overcrowded refugee camps just because we're not sure that they have left their own country for the right reasons?