Preparedness for when

jk0

Maybe the ferry could take them back to Africa, and tell them it's Greece.

thriftwizard

I encounter people who treat an ordinary screwdriver as if it is some kind of hi tech piece of apparatus which can only be operated by a time-served tradesperson.

Funny you should say that! I've spent quite a lot of today trying to obtain insurance quotes for a vehicle I'm trying to buy. My current insurance company gave me a classic "computer says no" answer, on the grounds that the vehicle has some seats that could potentially be removed by someone without specialist tools and specialist knowledge. In point of fact they are designed to be removed & replaced if you happen to want to carry large times like sofas - as they have been in a number of vehicles we've previously owned. And in vehicles that some of our neighbours own & run to this day, without a second thought.

I mentioned this to a young mechanic friend, who nearly snorted his cup of tea clear across the room. He reckons they won't be able to insure 99% of cars on the road in the UK today, in that case, as all you need to unbolt most seats is the appropriate spanner... You may need to remove a plastic cap first, but they're hardly difficult to identify & remove. And plenty of mainstream MPVs and people carriers have removeable seats, like the Citroen C8 or the Berlingo Multispace.

So is a spanner "specialist equipment" now, and do you need "specialist knowledge" to operate one?

betterlife

Omg, did you guys see the explosion in China? 3500 evacuated, over 700 injured and 50 dead! possible chemical leaks/contaminated air, so scary

GreyQueen

:rotfl:Hey, thriftwizard, I wonder if insurers realise that some of the public own welding equipment and know how to use it? There's all kinds of stuff in backyard sheds and workshops and all kinds of people using it. I have a set of spanners, myself. Mum has two sets, the good ones reserved for her and me, and the not-so-good ones which she trusts my Dad with.:D

Betterlife, yes, I saw that and thought how terrifying. And there has been a WW2 bomb found in the cellar of a London building this week, which caused an evacuation whilst it was dealt with. Even after all these years, these things are still popping up. My city was bombed, too, and I know where they fell in my neighbourhood, the nearest 500 lb bomb was about 50 yards away. Hope there aren't any unknown, unexploded ones around here.

Folks who garden, dogwalk on beaches, geocache or metal-detect, could do far worse than familiarise themselves with the appearance of certain old munitions, particularly hand grenades. Most of them don't look like the classic pineapple shape. There have been cases of people finding them and bringing them home and even allowing their children to take them in to school to show in class. Eeek!

thriftwizard

Hey, thriftwizard, I wonder if insurers realise that some of the public own welding equipment and know how to use it? There's all kinds of stuff in backyard sheds and workshops and all kinds of people using it. I have a set of spanners, myself. Mum has two sets, the good ones reserved for her and me, and the not-so-good ones which she trusts my Dad with.

Woe betide he who sets hand upon my drill! Or my jigsaw, or my detail sander... it's almost as heinous a crime as misusing my fabric scissors! I keep a big old drill out in the shed specifically for the menfolk to play with. It does work, perfectly well, but it's enormous & very unwieldy & skitters off every whichway when you're trying to use it. Keeps them entertained for hours, and out of my hair.

1Tonsil

This sent to me on facebook from a friend of mine who lives on Kos...interesting to hear another view...

I have not been able to comment for a while as my father died this week but - I live on Kos - the strain on the island is unbelievable - the islanders have given nothing but support to the refugees - however, there is only so much we can do. Kos is not a disaster area - these people are not violent (at the moment - as who really knows who or what they are) however, it really disappoints me to see them saying that they are having a terrible time here - no food and water etc etc etc. We are doing absolutely everything we can - getting nappies for the babies - medical wipes - food was being distributed etc. BUT when you give all these things and then they don't like the food (chucking it on the floor in its plastic container) or they generally throw rubbish everywhere all over the harbour even if they are next to a dustbin, they go to the toilet anywhere - even all around the harbour in the the middle of town - it is very difficult to continue. There is no respect shown at all - by coming here their lives have allegedly been saved - so why don't they help us to help them??????? I feel so sorry for our tiny police force - something will break - it has to - and it is very worrying. It is only certain areas that are affected but it is very sad what is happening. Mediators need to bought in - the rules of being in Greece need to be explained - we do not chuck rubbish all over the floor - we do not make examples of ourselves - we do not insist what our rights are - we live as lovers of nature - politeness and harmony - RESPECT please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This report is interesting as well...and true....http://www.ekathimerini.com/200562/article/ekathimerini/business/capital-controls-gum-up-greek-businesses-struggling-to-survive#item-comments


On a good news note, my slow cooker has just been delivered, just four days after I ordered it !

moneyistooshorttomention

Precisely 1Tonsil - a bit of "respect" being shown would be appropriate indeed for the help they are being given (and by people who don't have much themselves at that). No requirement to "humble oneself" and feel humiliated at wanting/needing the help. Just a bit of "respect" and gratitude for this help. The Greeks have no obligation to help them after all and are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts.

Frugalsod

betterlife wrote: »

Omg, did you guys see the explosion in China? 3500 evacuated, over 700 injured and 50 dead! possible chemical leaks/contaminated air, so scary

I have found this video which puts the severity in context.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e5_1439474009

WARNING NSFW language

Karmacat

Frugalsod wrote: »

WARNING NSFW language

I don't know what that is, Frugalsod, sorry

nuatha

Frugalsod wrote: »

I have found this video which puts the severity in context.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e5_1439474009

WARNING NSFW language

Karmacat wrote: »

I don't know what that is, Frugalsod, sorry

Not Safe For Work
In this case a lot of four letter words.