Preparedness for when

Perplexed_Pineapple

Good luck 1tonsil, I hope the elections don't lead to much unrest although I suspect they will if it's a close call. The Greeks are at the end of their tethers I'm sure, the ordinary news stories are bad enough and the stories that don't make the press here are worse. Anti-establishment parties are doing well all over Europe and UKIP are the front runners here I guess. Their candidates are "interesting" but I think we've become accustomed to bland, one-size-fits-all politicians over here, even the outspoken ones would be considered quiet and reserved in some parts of the world including parts of Europe and also Australia.
Not much prepping going on here in the last couple of weeks, to busy with RL but it's good to know, with winter here, such as it is, that our supplies of fuel, water and food are there if the grid, JIT system or finances go belly-up.
This is interesting*:
http://thebulletin.org/multimedia/it-3-minutes-midnight


MrsLW, I'm deeply envious of your local range of courses on old-school skills. Haven't found anything like that round here but there must be something or maybe will arrange a holiday based around a useful course somewhere.

*for people who are interested in that sort of thing :rotfl:

Perplexed_Pineapple

GQ, is this you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk

Dr._Shoe

My apocalyptic emergency kit is a bottle of sleeping pills and a litre bottle of scotch.

I think I can probably find a way to cope with anything else.

[Deleted User]

Dr._Shoe wrote: »

My apocalyptic emergency kit is a bottle of sleeping pills and a litre bottle of scotch.

No offence, but that's a rather defeatist attitude.

GreyQueen

Perplexed_Pineapple wrote: »

GQ, is this you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk

:T I wish! Totally awesome. I so wanna go play in that warehouse.

We've had some fun shooting 3 arrows off the same bow (not easy). I don't own a quiver, use a standing one belonging to the club. Waist quivers are a bliddy nuisance and over-the-back ones send the arrows shooting out when you lean over.

Archery done well is freakin' impressive even today. Would you want to be in the way of a silent weapon which can fire a projectile at half the speed of sound for up to a quarter mile? I love watching the cam wheels on the compound bows wind back then snap forward when the string is released and the whole cats-cradle string pours the power onto the arrow. Twock!

Watch this (0.15 secs) to see what an arrow actually does when you release the bowstring. It swims like a fish, amazing sight, IMO.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=archers+paradox+slow+motion+video&ia=videos&iai=aeL4xes384M

Frugalsod

1Tonsil wrote: »

Greece has been told in no uncertain terms that they cannot leave the EU as this option was never included when everyone signed up. The EU has whoever runs Greece by the short and curlies now as they have refused to buy any bonds from Greece and will buy from all the other countries in the EU instead.

The Syriza group show signs that they might win. They do not want to come out of the euro, but to sort out the mess that is the bailout. It was revealed today that the Germans have been doing some creative accounting and not using the method of accounting for Greece that they use for every other country.

The EU is trying to make folks vote for the current party by telling them horror stories of what will happen if they vote for the wrong group..... it has worked against them though as the euro is in free fall at the moment.

The ordinary Greek citizen here is going to vote for Syriza as they cant take any more .....the others , many of whom have been bought....are voting for the current robbers....and old boys brigade.


This is One tonsil in Corfu, signing off till the fireworks begin tomorrow night....the rebirth of democracy...unless the dirty tricks brigade fix the voting as they have in the past:eek:

Yes the Germans have been trying to scare the Greek electorate into voting against their own self interests. It has happened before and I am afraid they might succeed again.

Syriza would not want to exit the EU or the euro, but want to end the backing of the commercial banks bad debts. It is this that has worsened the situation in Greece. The bailouts to Greece were really bailouts to the Greek banks imposed on them by the EU.

While excessive government spending is one issue, and largely irrelevant now that Greece has a primary government surplus. That is without interest payments to the Troika. The real problem is the excessive lending by Greek banks to inflate a property bubble there is just the tip of the iceberg. The real problems for the EU are that if Greece were to renege on bailing out the banks and any debts that they were forced to take on to rescue the banks then it would mean that the Greek banks would fail. That would open up who is exposed to the bad debts. That would be Deutsche bank and the Big Three French banks. Deutsche bank would have direct bad loans to write off and then they would also have billions of CDS to pay out for the bank failures. That would result in big losses. If this were to be repeated in any of the other periphery countries then the losses would be enormous and Deutsche Bank would be insolvent and need a bail in. So much for the credibility of the German economic miracle. The French banks have direct investments in the southern periphery banking systems and so would be hit as they collapsed. All the QE is not to boost the economy it is to bail out the banks and provide liquidity to them.

Greece still has the upper hand. It could simply default and hold firm. When you owe a bank €1000 you have a problem when you owe them €180 billion they have a problem.

Syriza now have Yanis Varoufakis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanis_Varoufakis to help them deal with the negotiations.

Unless Greece elects Syriza there will be no end to its suffering. Look at Japan stagnation and deflation for more than 30 years.

moneyistooshorttomention

Dr._Shoe wrote: »

My apocalyptic emergency kit is a bottle of sleeping pills and a litre bottle of scotch.

I think I can probably find a way to cope with anything else.

:beer: Each to their own...and make mine champagne instead of scotch:beer:

I wouldn't say that's a "defeatist attitude", just someone being very realistic about their own personal limits if Things Got That Bad and it looked to be long-term.

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DR SHOE life is too interesting to just opt out whatever the reason, don't you have that spark of interest to actually see what happens? I could never just give up and end things, life IS life, whatever happens and I intend to live mine to the full until the second I die!!!

Perplexed_Pineapple

Also you might not die, just start off in a post-apocalyptic world with a massive hangover. Scotch and sleeping pills would be good bartering items though.

:beer:

1Tonsil

Frugalsod wrote: »

Yes the Germans have been trying to scare the Greek electorate into voting against their own self interests. It has happened before and I am afraid they might succeed again.

Syriza would not want to exit the EU or the euro, but want to end the backing of the commercial banks bad debts. It is this that has worsened the situation in Greece. The bailouts to Greece were really bailouts to the Greek banks imposed on them by the EU.

While excessive government spending is one issue, and largely irrelevant now that Greece has a primary government surplus. That is without interest payments to the Troika. The real problem is the excessive lending by Greek banks to inflate a property bubble there is just the tip of the iceberg. The real problems for the EU are that if Greece were to renege on bailing out the banks and any debts that they were forced to take on to rescue the banks then it would mean that the Greek banks would fail. That would open up who is exposed to the bad debts. That would be Deutsche bank and the Big Three French banks. Deutsche bank would have direct bad loans to write off and then they would also have billions of CDS to pay out for the bank failures. That would result in big losses. If this were to be repeated in any of the other periphery countries then the losses would be enormous and Deutsche Bank would be insolvent and need a bail in. So much for the credibility of the German economic miracle. The French banks have direct investments in the southern periphery banking systems and so would be hit as they collapsed. All the QE is not to boost the economy it is to bail out the banks and provide liquidity to them.

Greece still has the upper hand. It could simply default and hold firm. When you owe a bank €1000 you have a problem when you owe them €180 billion they have a problem.

Syriza now have Yanis Varoufakis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanis_Varoufakis to help them deal with the negotiations.

Unless Greece elects Syriza there will be no end to its suffering. Look at Japan stagnation and deflation for more than 30 years.

If this site had a like button I would have pressed it a thousand times to like what you said :T:T:T:T
That is exactly what has been going on! Summed up to perfection:beer:

I suspect Syriza have been very busy having private meetings with everyone while the other parties have been muck flinging.... I know that Syriza has met the new leaders of other countries like Spain and formed an alliance with them.

Yesterday in a Greek interview the leader of Syriza was asked what his first move would be. His answer was that he would disarm the riot police so they could not kill or maim anyone else. ...

He was also asked where he could get the money to invest in business and to boost the pensions which were cut to less than four hundred euros a month. I suspect he plans to bring the bankers to rights and take back the money stolen by the old time politicians and salted away in villas, yachts and bank accounts in Switzerland and the UK. Time will tell but he had a very knowing look on his face when he smiled at the camera.

It is surprisingly quiet in the village at the moment, but that may change as the day goes on. The voting ends at 7 pm our time tonight. I have no doubt if he wins there will be fireworks and shotguns.....both literally and figuratively....:rotfl: There is a very nice feeling of change in the air, and dare I say it, the first optimism I have felt for about six years....

We have only a small amount left in euros in the Greek bank. Most of our pounds are in our Uk bank out of the way of anything that might happen to local banks here. We are well stocked up with food and fuel. I doubt very much if there will be civil unrest here in Corfu, maybe in the cities if the election result is fiddled......oops...did I just say that aloud ???:rotfl:

Meanwhile the weather continues to be a pain in the neck, lovely sunshine earlier, then it went very cold, then we got headache when it went stormy......and now its changing again..... what have they done to the weather...:eek: