Preparedness for when

moneyistooshorttomention

A very good point. That he, at least, had the b&lls to stand up to the Americans on that.:T

If he hadn't, then that may even have involved not just the Army, but people being conscripted into joining against their will as well. I seem to remember a generation of American men landing up having to either flee to Canada to avoid that or getting sent and hardened/traumatised in the process and then coming back to a society where they were basically shunned for what they did whilst out there.

But then we've now moved on to an era where many conflicts are fought in cyberspace these days (thinks about a certain film recently and the in-the-same vein retaliation that got sent back again....). Though, goodness knows, we currently have the most bloodthirsty and well-funded group seen for a long time over in the Middle East.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

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But then we've now moved on to an era where many conflicts are fought in cyberspace these days (thinks about a certain film recently and the in-the-same vein retaliation that got sent back again....). Though, goodness knows, we currently have the most bloodthirsty and well-funded group seen for a long time over in the Middle East.[/QUOTE]


Even though we have moved on with technology and weapons etc, I wouldn't say our conflicts are fought in cyberspace, especially with all those poor young lads ( soldiers) who have died for a war that doesn't involve us ...


Think you need to get back to reality, and stop comparing conflicts of today with sy-fi films.




THANKS for the heads up re- hair cuts, the unicorn way... will take a mooch on the interweb about it..




talking about the 70's inflation etc..


people were piddled off in the 70's so we had the winter of discontent. In the 80's we had record high interest rates... why did that happen? and why didn't people react with another winter of discontent? or did Maggie put a stop to that?


In the 80's I was in my early teens so was only know bits

Frugalsod

At least US bankers are getting bug out bags. Maybe they will need them.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-23/destruction-middle-class-nearing-final-stages

That article does highlight the risk of ordinary people losing their entire life savings in the next banking crisis.

jk0

This might interest you guys:

http://news.sky.com/video/1396724/the-doom-boom

jk0

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

talking about the 70's inflation etc..


people were piddled off in the 70's so we had the winter of discontent. In the 80's we had record high interest rates... why did that happen? and why didn't people react with another winter of discontent? or did Maggie put a stop to that?


In the 80's I was in my early teens so was only know bits

I think it was only home owners who were really affected by the interest rates. There's less of us with the hunger to go out protesting.

I think people realised they might genuinely lose their homes if they didn't pay (as many did), so that's quite an incentive to take the extra shifts necessary.

nuatha

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

Even though we have moved on with technology and weapons etc, I wouldn't say our conflicts are fought in cyberspace, especially with all those poor young lads ( soldiers) who have died for a war that doesn't involve us ...

It seems the more tech we use the more non-combatants die and the greater the amount of friendly fire casualties.

talking about the 70's inflation etc..
people were piddled off in the 70's so we had the winter of discontent. In the 80's we had record high interest rates... why did that happen? and why didn't people react with another winter of discontent? or did Maggie put a stop to that?
In the 80's I was in my early teens so was only know bits

Partly it was the price paid for the Winter of Discontent - the Unions hadn't expected Maggie to be elected. From the beginning her agenda was to ensure that the same tactics couldn't be used against her. From massively increasing police wages, to ending the job for life of the dockers, breaking the NUM and the RMT. She was very good at what she did, had a plan and stacked the cards in her favour.
There were mass protests, most notably the anti Poll Tax campaigns, though as in the Miner's Strike the media portrayed a different reality to that which many people experienced.
Later laws were enacted that made it illegal to assemble, (Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994) and criminalised many acts which were previously civil offences.

More than anything else, that's what turned me into a serious prepper. Prior to the 80s the general attitude in this part of the world was that communities looked after their own, government might be paternalistic but its intentions were decent (no matter what flavour their politics). By the end of the 80's community was a dying aspiration rather than a reality. Much as it was criticised at the time Margaret Thatchers 1987 quote "There is no such thing as society" had become a reality in ways she never envisioned.

craigywv

hi all been awol for few weeks rl been hectic, just on to say Happy Christmas to you all and a prosperous New Year xxx

jk0

Today was the first day I felt well enough to drive for about ten days. I had a present to deliver to my ex's little boy, so hopped in the car with it around 1.30pm.

The car refused to start due to a flat battery, so I dug out my charger & extension lead.

I know that the battery should be okay, as I trickle charged it a few weeks ago, so then I got out the phone book to find another. KwikFit at the end of my road seemed to be shut already, so I tried National Tyres about 3 miles away.

Fortunately they had one, but were closing at 3pm! The battery got about 15 minutes charge, which was just adequate to start the car. I got to National Tyres around 2.20, and got new one fitted.

Thank God I did not leave present delivery until tomorrow!

Have a peaceful Christmas everyone.

daz378

Just wishing you all a merry xmas and prosperous new year....had to book a taxi for 7am till 3pm tomorrow .... at least can have xmas dinner with dad..... how long can opec keep their curent production levels to maintain their market share..... will it kill off fracking? if they do win ...bet prices will rise to near 200 dollars a barrel as they try to recoup losses..... beware the rebound

Frugalsod

nuatha wrote: »

It seems the more tech we use the more non-combatants die and the greater the amount of friendly fire casualties.


Partly it was the price paid for the Winter of Discontent - the Unions hadn't expected Maggie to be elected. From the beginning her agenda was to ensure that the same tactics couldn't be used against her. From massively increasing police wages, to ending the job for life of the dockers, breaking the NUM and the RMT. She was very good at what she did, had a plan and stacked the cards in her favour.
There were mass protests, most notably the anti Poll Tax campaigns, though as in the Miner's Strike the media portrayed a different reality to that which many people experienced.
Later laws were enacted that made it illegal to assemble, (Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994) and criminalised many acts which were previously civil offences.

Also as Maggie destroyed the power of unions she destroyed the influence it had on other workers wages. It is the lack of power that all workers now suffer from that makes deflation inevitable. As nation UK median wages have been stagnant in real terms since 2003 and as such employees have no real bargaining power, so even if the government talk about rising wages they know that this is a false dream, but they would never admit it. If any worker does ask for higher wages there are plenty of others who would love a job at the existing wage rate so workers cannot demand wage increases. Unions have been so constrained by laws that they struggle to get the votes to push for strike action again because of the fear of being replaced. So when you hear on the news of the government expecting wages to increase as the recovery takes hold they know that they are lying. It will only make employees think they did not deserve one rather than the reality is that no one deserved a rise.

I have been rethinking the oil price collapse. I am not thinking conspiracy any longer. There is a slump in demand everywhere, and you can see that in the cost of shipping freight rates. The Baltic index which is a guide to the cost of shipping a container is as low as it was in 2009 at the depth of the world recession. So to put it simply there is simply not enough goods being demanded around the world to move goods and if goods are not being moved they are also not being made. All this points to lower demand for oil everywhere. So the comments by Saudi Arabia are to maintain their market share, nothing more, even if it wipes out the fracking industry. No conspiracy needed. I suspect that the media are pushing the conspiracies because of sloppy journalism or it does not suit the narrative that TPTB want. If people are told it is a conspiracy rather than a lousy economy they might vote differently.