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  • greenbee
    greenbee Posts: 17,840 Forumite
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    jk0 wrote: »
    Bl**dy Cameron eh?

    We are being asked to go to war again on the premise that the Iraqi government has asked for British & American help.

    Well, they would, wouldn't they? They are the government we installed after we got rid of the last lot.

    Well it was either divest Scotland or go to war (or both). War is good for the economy. Divesting Scotland would have involved spending money so might have put it off for a bit.
  • nuatha
    nuatha Posts: 1,932 Forumite
    Thank you. Depressing reading isn't it?

    Now, as a comparison, do you fancy looking up equivalent links for conflicts Sweden and Switzerland have been involved in over the last 100 years?

    Sweden
    Since the federalisation of Switzerland (1815) the army has been mobilised several times, but to my knowledge hasn't gone to war (unless you count attacking its own citizens)

    However the comparison is apples and oranges.
    The evidence strongly suggests that Hobbes was right when he wrote "Bellum omnium contra omnes" in De Cive (1642) though I'd argue that it is the state of civilisation rather than its absence which is the cause.
  • "The war of all against all" after a quick google. Shows how little attention I paid when we were taught Latin at school...

    Thanks.
  • jk0 wrote: »
    Bl**dy Cameron eh?

    .

    Blame bleeping bliar and his cronies. Sadaam would have had the country under his control. There is no choice now, I feel nothing but sympathy for the poor wretches that have been turfed out of their homes with nothing and minus many relatives who have been ruthlessly murdered by ISIS
  • jk0
    jk0 Posts: 3,479 Forumite
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    kittie wrote: »
    Blame bleeping bliar and his cronies.

    Oh, him as well. :)

    It annoys me that when Uncle Sam says jump, Blighty replies 'how high'.
  • Frugalsod
    Frugalsod Posts: 2,966 Forumite
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    Too many governments think that they have an army that to justify its expenditure that they have to use it, to get their monies worth. Though the same could be said of protecting politicians. If we strip them of the police protection would they be so willing to set the troops on the people or abroad?
    It's really easy to default to cynicism these days, since you are almost always certain to be right.
  • I am so so worried about the future for our children and their children. We are over run with dregs doing anything they can to get into the uk. Dregs pleading this and that but accompanied by sim cards and mobile phones. I accidentally had a prog on about calais yesterday and it left me fuming

    Beheading, power mad dictatorships. China and russia stripping africa of its resources, leaving nothing for the indigenous peoples, who see that power gains riches. I forget about it sometimes, when I sit in my quiet corner of an English village but in all honesty I confess that I am glad to be getting old. More and more people will be wanting out. The news these days is unbearable
  • It's one of those situations where you're damned if you do and damned if you don't! If we don't help address this horror we're percieved as weak and vulnerable and the likelihood is we'll be targeted by the bad people because of that, if we do help and join in we're likely to be seen as 'the enemy' and the likelihood is that we'll be targeted because of that too. If we're in the firing line, whatever the reasoning and whatever the morals of doing nothing or acting I'd much rather be trying to sort out this vicious mess than sitting back debating the rights and wrongs. IF there were a way to resolve this situation peacefully in an amicable and civilised manner I'd be first in line to try BUT I don't think there is that option so better in for a sheep than a lamb!!!
  • If I belonged to isis then I would be wanting to own europe, so what better than to have a steady infiltration. Horror scenario

    I hate war but we have to go in. I see Denmark has joined so the coalition is getting stronger. I feel very concerned for australia and new zealand too, so far away and so vulnerable. It is a world war and is spreading by stealth
  • Can anyone tell me what was the last year Britain wasn't involved in some war or other (if not more than one at a time)? I have the vague idea that, if I'd been keeping track of them all, I might have to think back as far as the 1970s to when Britain was last "at peace". Which was that prescient well-known fiction book with a constant war going on?
    Not quite the question you asked, but, to the best of my knowledge, the only year in the 20thC that at least one British serviceman didn't die on active service was 1968.

    Possibly urban myth, but that's what we were always told.
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