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  • daz378
    daz378 Posts: 1,053 Forumite
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    after 7 days working.... ive arrived at my long weekend off... not in till wednesday... got about 8 canisters of gas may get another pack.... was checking my tins for calorific value 1 standard tin of potatoes 1 tin of stewed steak 1 tin of peas about 900 calories, maybe thickened cornflour and gravy 1100 we would need 1600 a day to do any kind of work....this is handy , as i could mark boxes 3 days food based on calorific value and if i shop based on (C.V) adding as much variety as possible........Isnt it funny U.S goading Putin .... he turns of gas ...and everyone has to fall in love with fracking......when so many jobs could found with investment in renewables....... Going to rain a lot tomorrow , sports bag tinny shop on sunday then........enjoy your weekend
  • Frugalsod
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    daz378 wrote: »
    Isnt it funny U.S goading Putin .... he turns of gas ...and everyone has to fall in love with fracking......when so many jobs could found with investment in renewables....... Going to rain a lot tomorrow , sports bag tinny shop on sunday then........enjoy your weekend
    The best investment is efficiency and conservation. It is also very good at creating jobs as home insulation is much more labour intensive than building a power station once every 40 years or so. Fracking is another short term solution and may only last us a decade or more but the other costs will be immense. It also is only really cost effective with really high energy prices and even now the current prices for gas in the US are not high enough to actually make it cost effective. What is happening there is that they are able to go ahead because debt is so cheap and they are able to borrow to finance it. So for every $1.5 of debt that they use to finance fracking they only get $1 of gas out and ultimately that is a road to nowhere. So the policy is to get as much gas as possible out and then go bust and leave the debts to the tax payer. The fact is that governments only think until the next election is the reason the country is in such a mess.
    It's really easy to default to cynicism these days, since you are almost always certain to be right.
  • Weather has finally broken round here.

    It rained so hard overnight, it woke me up.

    It's still raining, and the temperature in my LR, is a much more bearable 73.8f.
  • Nice cottage mardatha.

    However, the only way I could move to a place like that, is if I was wealthy enough not to work, in which case I'd want to buy, not rent.
  • GreyQueen
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    jk0 wrote: »
    :T Oooh, interesting. So we're nearly on capacity draw at 11.51 am on a Saturday (times on the site are GMT and we're GMT+1 hour atm)?

    I wonder what the daily fluctuations in electricity consumption are across the country? Anyone got a good linkie? I guess people are running their washers now, some are online (waves), some may be cooking, hoovering, playing, ironing.........

    I've just put my pooter on for the first time today, other than that, the only leccy used has been the mini-freezer and the fridge and the little bit of power required to keep my hot water tank in communication with The Mothership, my pet name for the communal heating and hotwater plant as Shoebox Towers. It has 12 industrial gas boilers, which is surplus capacity to allow for maintenance, 4 typically run in the summer, 8 in the winter, on rotation. If your little electrical thingummagig alongside the tank goes wrong (or you didn't have a leccy supply) the water doesn't get heated.

    My household is presently using 2kwH per 24 hours, wonder if I can do better than that? Am just now starting the so-called navy shower, as in turning it off to soap-up, the back on to rinse off, saving much water.

    Went to the bootsale first thing and found it was cancelled as we'd had thunderstorms overnight and a lot of rain and the field was boggy. Gardened from 9-11 am and transplanted 154 leeks. Not all of them will make it, and some of them will be tiddlers, but I'm pretty pleased with the results - they're on what was the broad bean beds at the start of the week, which looked very untidy, and now it's all pristine and replanted.

    I also nipped into a Liddly and got some more tins of sardines (the ones in oil are longer dated than the ones in tomato sauce and are dated for 2019) and some kidney beans and puree. If nothing else, I'm hedging against food-price inflation.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)
  • pineapple
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    edited 19 July 2014 at 1:42PM
    Sorry if I have missed any posts on this subject, but trying to limit my time of the old interweb..


    what are people's thoughts ( from a prepping point of view) about the tragedy of the Malysian plane that came down in the Ukraine??


    Do you think this will effect trade, prices, shortages etc if this turns out to be more than just a plane malfunction??
    I'm catching up too. I think by now it's pretty clear that this was down to a mistake by the Ukrainian separatists. Oh to be a fly on the wall chez Putun! As such I'm not sure this falls into the categories of war crime or terrorism but rather it's a sad casualty of conflict. Nor am I thinking 'conspiracy' - though if we head on over to GLP or Icke, I'm sure plenty will be convinced that this is some nefarious false flag. Plus in the grand tradition of such sites there will probably be some who dispute even the existence of the flight itself!
    Accidental shoot downs are of course not unknown - yes even by Uncle Sam - but coming at a time of such tensions I do worry a bit where this may lead. Though from a glass half full perspective, it could also be the catalyst that leads to some issues getting resolved.
    I only hope it was quick for those on board - a quick !!!!!! !!!!!!...
  • We were discussing EU workers in the UK a little while ago and I had an interesting experience today when I was at the bus stop waiting to come home from the shops. A very pleasant foreign man in his late 30s early 40s asked in heavily accented english if the busses running into the city went from the stop and when did the next one go please? I showed him the timetable and how to find the bus he nbeeded and he started chatting. He was from Bulgaria and said his english was small and it was good to try and talk so I chatted. Lovely guy, over here picking broccoli and asparagus for the season, wife and family back in Bulgaria and he was missing them like crazy but comes here to work because in his words 'All day work in Bulgaria gets £25, hard work here for me is £25 an hour... is why I come, Bulgaria is hard, here is hard work but pay is enough for my family to live well. I go home tomorrow but come back in December for cutting flowers. He also said he'd lost 30 kilos since he came, so I guess the work is hard in hothouses and long hours mean lots of exercise. I waved him off as I think he was a bit lost and he waved back. I know I've been scathing about out youngsters not wanting to work in the past but I can't find it in my heart to begrudge him his £25 an hour for his efforts,I said so and I think he understood!!!
  • VJsmum
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    I guess it is the Dutch who would have the biggest issue as it was mostly their citizens who were aboard. And the Malaysians, of course.

    To send the flight data recorders to Moscow, is just the most ridiculous thing - surely Amsterdam or The Hague would be better, otherwise no one will believe the result.

    Just horrendous....
    I wanna be in the room where it happens
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 19 July 2014 at 2:07PM
    Witless wrote: »
    In other words ... about a day ... hopefully.

    You could always go for a stove, that works on the refillable butane/propane cylinders.

    Aldi were recently selling one, with two burners and a grill, for £24-99.

    If you are lucky, you might find a store with some left.

    The downside is, you will need to purchase a regulator, hose and a cylinder.

    Failing that, you could pick up a similar unit from Amazon, for around £40.

    I know someone who lives in a cottage, with no mains gas.

    He uses a similar stove, which he runs off 47kg propane cylinders, which he tells me, last around 1 year each.
    calor_47kg_propane_medium.jpg
    ETA: If going the way of refillable cylinders, it might be worth investing in a cylinder top stove as well, in case of a breakdown with the main stove.
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