Preparedness for when

siegemode

Update on the rat bite.
After a call from a concerned friend who had mentioned my mishap to a farmer friend I contacted the DRs again. It was suggested by the farmer that even dogs were given antibiotics following a rat bite. I queried this with the Dr who called me back. Turns out that antibiotics should have been given and to add to it blood tests have now been booked. I feel really cross that I wasn't on the ball last night when I saw the nurse. I gave all the info but just accepted the tetanus shot. After being given the jab the nurse then casually mentioned that it also covered polio and diphtheria, a 3 in 1 shot. This completely sent me off track being someone who avoids all but the most crucial meds and has real concerns about vacinations and the big pharma etc. I wasn't a happy bunny to say the least. It would have been nice to know prior to the jab even if I had little choice, but to accept it.
Any way just goes to show we should all do our own research and not just accept what the DRs and nurses tell us. They might be professionals, but even they make mistakes and I know. They messed up with 2 grandparents and had it not be for a threat of court action by mum I wouldn't be alive today as the Dr completely misdiagnosed and dismissed me some years back. I'm therefore cross that I didn't question the lack of antibiotics yesterday.

As for the discussion on the plague and black death I was alarmed when the discovery of mass graves hit the news. I worry that in disturbing and testing the remains that scientists may unleash the unimaginable especially now that it appears it may be airborne spread.

siegemode

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

THRIFTWIZARD none of us have a crystal ball so no one can predict or forsee the future and what will or will not happen, unfortunately what we're all blessed or cursed with is an imagination that can come up with ideas and fears that can dominate and flavour our reactions to percieved problems and possibilities. I don't think the world will go out with a bang I rather think it will be a soft and fairly prolonged sigh of resignation. I won't let it scare me, whatever IT is, I will view it with respect and caution and do my very best to outmanoeuvre it, to be prepared for any eventualities that I can imagine and any possibilities I can imagine and if that's not enough I'll be a reluctant part of the resigned sigh!!! I will take what precautions and make what preparations are within my ability but I won't ignore it in the hope that it won't happen, most of all I won't live my life in fear, I will LIVE my life and enjoy every second of it the best I can, anything less than that would mean I've lost before I've begun to fight, Lyn xxx.

FRUGALSOD I can only be responsible for myself and my family, I would hate it that others could not prepare as I do, but survival is in part about selfishness and resolution and I would have to put us first.

Well said, I feel the same and try to stay positive about our chances. We have most of our shopping delivered because of health restraints. Our Friday delivery guy today had just returned from holiday in the mid east and as we chatted on the doorstep I instinctively stepped back as the sars virus came to mind. Paranoid or cautious, makes you think.

GreyQueen

I'd rest easier, seigemode. Archaelogists have been poking around in ancient plague pits for a long time and nobody seems to have caught it. Pneumonic plague relied on people breathing it out, and the bubonic version was borne by fleas.

Fleas leave a cooling (i.e. dead) body and can live off-host for some small amount of time, but no one is going to find them living in 700 y.o. plague pits.

I know where some plague pits about 400 m from my flat. Their whereabouts are not usually secret, but they sometimes find forgotten mass-internments, like the one where they were working on the Crossrail development in London last year.

It's jokingly said that there's a corpse under every hedge in this country; but the skellingtons don't worry me, real live people are more likely to cause trouble.

Glad you're getting anti-biotics. I confess I was a little baffled that you were getting anti-tetanus instead, as that's more likely to be risk for puncture wounds from soil and brambles, and my first thought was that anti-biotics would have been the thing, but then second-thoughted that the medics presumably knew what they were doing. We should assume nothing...........

As a child, probably about 10 or so, I was walking in the woods and reached down to part the grass beside a track to see what creature was causing a rustling noise. I retracted my hand pretty sharpish; I had a shrew attached to my thumb! I shook the blighter off and squeezed the wound until it bled freely to cleanse it. Probably should have told the folks and got a shot but was a robust, tomboyish lass and just got on with it.

ragz_2

siegemode wrote: »

. After being given the jab the nurse then casually mentioned that it also covered polio and diphtheria, a 3 in 1 shot. This completely sent me off track being someone who avoids all but the most crucial meds and has real concerns about vacinations and the big pharma etc. I wasn't a happy bunny to say the least. It would have been nice to know prior to the jab even if I had little choice, but to accept it..

I am pretty sure that is illegal as you did not give informed consent... I would be fuming!
Bedsit Bob - My apologies, I never read the titles of posts, I forget they have them...

thriftwizard

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

THRIFTWIZARD none of us have a crystal ball so no one can predict or forsee the future and what will or will not happen, unfortunately what we're all blessed or cursed with is an imagination that can come up with ideas and fears that can dominate and flavour our reactions to percieved problems and possibilities. I don't think the world will go out with a bang I rather think it will be a soft and fairly prolonged sigh of resignation. I won't let it scare me, whatever IT is, I will view it with respect and caution and do my very best to outmanoeuvre it, to be prepared for any eventualities that I can imagine and any possibilities I can imagine and if that's not enough I'll be a reluctant part of the resigned sigh!!! I will take what precautions and make what preparations are within my ability but I won't ignore it in the hope that it won't happen, most of all I won't live my life in fear, I will LIVE my life and enjoy every second of it the best I can, anything less than that would mean I've lost before I've begun to fight, Lyn xxx.

Thank you, MrsLW, for a very sane & balanced pep-talk! I'm just a bit skittered at the moment; I don't think the scary orange storm extended beyond the immediate area I was travelling through yesterday, but I gather lots of people over a very wide area picked up the faint chemical smell, whether they were "smogged" or not.

GQ, I'm almost tempted to take my mobile device with me tomorrow so I'll know as soon as possible that your lottie shed is unmolested! But shan't, because the venue for the market is in quite a - ahem, lively - area & it'd be daft to put temptation in people's way.

I too discovered the sharp end of a shrew, by picking one up in a shrubbery, out of sheer curiosity, aged about 8. Not a particularly clever thing to do... but I also survived without medical attention; I knew what my parents/older brothers would say if they discovered I'd been bothering the local wildlife, so I never told them.

maryb

Actually they have made a positive attempt to resurrect the 1918 flu virus to study it, by taking samples from victims buried in Spitzbergen, thinking that the cold would have preserved them, and haven't been able to. And if they can't do it with something less than 100 years old then chances are the plague is also not susceptible to resurrection

mrs_lds

Woah check this out from the past few days totally believe that animals have a sixth sense.

http://www.snopes.com/critters/gnus/yellowstone.asp

maryb

Sorry,I'm confused - isn't it saying that animals are not, in fact, fleeing the park?

mrs_lds

maryb wrote: »

Sorry,I'm confused - isn't it saying that animals are not, in fact, fleeing the park?

I though those animals plus rabbits and others all leaving. I was a little scepticle at first as it was near april fools day but apparently it is real

nuatha

Butterfly_Brain wrote: »

I am going to the market tomorrow to get lots of veggies to dehydrate so I can use my new toy Mine won't be ready for a long while, but I am itching to have a go

Among other uses my vacuum packer gets put to is packing stuff for the freezer (in particular sliced meats) and documents for the bug out bag - laminating is a one way process, quite often you need original (or certified copies).

Frugalsod wrote: »

I think that most people would struggle because they would have to work, which could bring them into contact with people. While I could if necessary go for a couple of months as long as I could cope without milk etc though many would not. What about the many who rely on food banks to cope? They would have to go and collect it. Many on zero hour contracts if work dried up would need to get out to a food bank or to sign on.

If we had a major infectious disease outbreak, I couldn't see anyone signing on, those who were already on benefits would probably continue to be paid into their banks, new claimants might be allowed to sign on online, if at all.
One of the major priorities would be to cut down on people movement and association. It would not be business as usual. And you're right people on zero hour contracts would have zero working hours and not be paid.