Preparedness for when

anika

Hi, I have been following this thread for ages and am hooked now! I have nothing to contribute as I don't prep. I want to everytime I read though! I have just had a funny half hour watching the TVL utube videos and it just goes to show how we are being conned one way or the other, however, I couldn't keep this one to myself. Only today I was trying to contact the TVL to ask, yet again, where is my licence? I renewed it in December and still not got it, I have asked several times and always told there is a backlog.....today after a couple of times of listening to a recorded message saying there are no advisors available, please try later, I am giving up:)

I read with great interest all the snippets you give about the financial crash, EMP etc but am suprised no one has commented on the spread of the Ibola Virus, happening now!...now that is one I will be worried about:eek:

ragz_2

Anika - I meant to post a link on here last night about the Ebola virus, but I was on my phone when I was reading about it. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/30/guinea-battles-spread-ebola-virus I was worried too.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/31/guinea-ebola-epidemic-medecins-sans-frontieres

anika

Yea Ragz, it is rather scary, if that is not contained soon then there could be real trouble. You don't want to read too much! Ebola with an E, that is:o

nuatha

anika wrote: »

I read with great interest all the snippets you give about the financial crash, EMP etc but am suprised no one has commented on the spread of the Ibola Virus, happening now!...now that is one I will be worried about:eek:

I keep an eye on the outbreaks of hemorrhagic fevers like the latest Ebola outbreak in Guinea. As a SHTF vector they are horrific but so far are too virulent to manage to go global (thank goodness). The various 'flus tend to be more worrying, we know that they can spread globally with devastating consequences.
If we have a contagion outbreak in London there will be around 200,000 people leaving Heathrow for some 80 countries. Remote UK towns and villages would actually have more warning than most major cities in the world.

ragz_2

anika wrote: »

Yea Ragz, it is rather scary, if that is not contained soon then there could be real trouble. You don't want to read too much! Ebola with an E, that is:o

Especially with the recent news that the great plague in London was actually airbourne, not on fleas after all. Makes you realise how fast these things can spread. The plague took out 6 of every 10 people in London, though they were in poor health in general any way (malnutrition etc), but still... with air/road/rail travel these days...

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Fast incubation/rapidly fatal viruses are actually a Godsend, as far as spreading is concerned.

They kill the victim, before he/she has the chance to spread the disease very far.

It's the viruses that remain asymptomatic for a long time, that are the real concern.

The victim has time to spread the infection far and wide.

anika

This bit is worrying...... bringing the disease – previously limited to remote, lightly populated areas – to a sprawling Atlantic Ocean port of two million people.

I also read that hospitals are on alert in the UK, but i suppose that is normal in these cases. It is horrific, poor souls what a way to die, so lets hope you are right Nuatha

Frugalsod

Ebola is also too rare and not cost effective to develop treatments or tests for right now. If it hit a western city I suspect that the pharmaceutical companies will have much more incentive to research it. I suspect that the only ones developing vaccines will be the military, they might be concerned about its use as a weapon.

nuatha

anika wrote: »

This bit is worrying...... bringing the disease – previously limited to remote, lightly populated areas – to a sprawling Atlantic Ocean port of two million people.

I also read that hospitals are on alert in the UK, but i suppose that is normal in these cases. It is horrific, poor souls what a way to die, so lets hope you are right Nuatha

I'll keep my fingers crossed.
So far the lucky escape Ebola wise is Reston ebolavirus, found in 3 US states as well as Italy, originating in the Philippines where it has also infected swine. Thankfully these cases were primates and no record of transmission to humans exists, it may be the only Ebola variant that has not transitioned to humans.

Given that the most effective method of preventing spread is strict barrier nursing procedures, I do have concerns if it enters the UK - Earlier this year Herself was in hospital in what was supposedly contagion isolation - I saw several consultants get the precautions wrong, not to mention nurses who ignored warning signs and procedures. The people who got it right were the cleaners. (Failures to glove gown and mask before entering, failure to remove said items before leaving the unit (not helped by the only safe disposal point not being near the exit).

Having said that, I am still more concerned by SARS or Bird Flu. though the resurgence of TB and Polio are also worrying.

Ocean transmission is less of a concern than airplane - flights are quick, sea travel takes time and its far easier to isolate a ship than an aircraft - you have to let a plane land (or decide to blow it up)

Butterfly_Brain

Senegal has closed its borders and Saudi has suspended visas
http://www.arabnews.com/news/548446

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/01/saudi-arabia-visas-guinea-liberia-ebola

82 dead and rising and yet the WHO says that it is a small outbreak and there is no need to panic. I think that there is every reason to be alert