Preparedness for when

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jk0 wrote: »

As Bedsit Bob pointed out, maybe 40% of our electricity comes from gas.

Hence, if the gas supply is interrupted, we can all expect to experience the consequences of load shedding, especially during high demand times.

For those who haven't already got a camping stove and cylinders, now might be the time to get them.

mardatha

"Edit: When the lights start going out, hopefully someone will realise the folly of knocking down functioning coal fired power stations. "
Absolutely! We have Cockenzie where my son lives, coalfired power station just closed this year. We have hundreds of years of coal in the ground and yet we sit like eejits waiting for gas through a pipeline that wanders all over Europe. You have to wonder if the govt is maybe secretly working for Russia LOL!

jk0

Britain could be on warpath with Russia to stop 'invasion' of Ukraine | World | News | Daily Express

Oh, !!!!!!! I thought we would have learnt our lesson a century ago when we guaranteed Belgian independence.

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COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

It really does show how vunrable sp? our country is, on relying on other countries for our most basic stuff... same with food.... I honestly don't know if we as a country is self sufficient in any of our food produce??

The population is a lot higher than during the last war but I still think there is a lot to be learnt - both on an individual and a government basis - from conservation and use of resources at that time. It might even be a much needed 'learning experience'!
As for load shedding, other countries have had and do have load shedding. I have lived in one of them and while a big change from our on demand lifestyle - the sky will not fall in if it happens.

mardatha

We haven't got any soldiers, they paid off the army. And we haven't got any battelships cos they scrapped them. And we have got aircraft carriers - but no planes to go on them. I think we'll stay out of it lol

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mardatha wrote: »

I think we'll stay out of it lol

Other than saying how much we disapprove and threatening to take home our bat and ball

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Russia is I believe in the process of building gas pipelines that go around Ukraine and not through it but they are still under construction at the moment (this from BBc News when this first kicked off in Kiev)and therefore the Russians are under a certain amount of pressure to keep Ukraine from just shutting off the pipeline. I suspect the russian economy benefits quite substantially from the gas revenue from European countries and they will not want to lose it!!! I know we're OS but if anyone really is worried and doesn't have the means to heat their home other than with gas or electricity then this might be the time to invest in a paraffin stove and a camping/calor gas cooking ring. I know paraffin is expensive and will become more so as peak oil and its effects become more apparent, but it will keep at least one room warm in your house and the gas ring will allow you to make warm one pot meals for your families in the colder weather. You can still get paraffin stoves, we found a round valour heater which we use in the greenhouse for £1 at a boot fair a few years ago. The other thing to invest in if you can afford to would be some solar lamps and that way at least you'll have reading light in the dark evenings, we've discussed this before and the best I know of are the Ikea Sunnan Lamps. None of these items is very expensive, but do involve some outlay of cash. It's really the only action you can take against what is inevitably going to happen in the future, insurance if you like!!! Lyn xxx.

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mardatha wrote: »

We haven't got any soldiers, they paid off the army. And we haven't got any battelships cos they scrapped them. And we have got aircraft carriers - but no planes to go on them. I think we'll stay out of it lol

Hope the government realise what they done before shooting their mouth off lol

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I've just looked on Fleabay searching for 'Paraffin Stove' and there is one of the type we have, battered and old but you can still buy the new wicks for then from hardware shops, and a few Valour Boiling Stoves which you can also cook on. There is a new larger heater for under £200 which runs on paraffin and a couple of 30s older room heaters if anyone is interested in looking, Lyn xxx.

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Wow, lots of food for thought in the posts since yesterday, a few thoughts to add FWIW

jk0 wrote: »

Last month we learnt that HSBC won't let you draw out over £3000 cash unless you transfer it to another bank. In a bail-in you will probably be restricted to around £150 cash.

I guess the real difference is that anything in your account over £85k will disappear. But wait a minute, if the bank is levered 80:1, that money wasn't really there in the first place, was it?

So what happens in a bail-in? All it means is that banks no longer have to 'pretend' that money is there.

It's all 0s and 1s on a hard drive somewhere anyway, such is the level of financial sophistication our society has reached. An EMP could wipe it all out in an instant, apparently. I wonder whether the big financial insitutions use Faraday cages to protect their data? Bitcoin is only the latest evolution of this, wouldn't touch it with a bargepole myself.

GreyQueen wrote: »

I get rather annoyed at organisations who insist that they're capitalist players and then want to run to Mummy for a bail-out when it all gets a bit nasty. 'Too Big to Fail' (TBTF) is an abominable concept in banking. It cannot help but cause rash behaviour. Far better if the CEOs of major banks always understood that they'd have all their assets confiscated and their persons detained at Her Majesty's Pleasure for several years for reckless stupidity, and be treated as social pariahs forever after.

The bankster who has come nearest to that is Fred "the shred" Goodwin I think, he lost his knighthood, house, is divorced and hiding out somewhere with nothing but his 350K pension and a terrible reputation to fall back on.

mardatha wrote: »

We haven't got any soldiers, they paid off the army. And we haven't got any battelships cos they scrapped them. And we have got aircraft carriers - but no planes to go on them. I think we'll stay out of it lol

Just like 1938 then. There is a school of thought that applauds the Munich Agreement, (for which Chamberlain was roundly vilified for policy of appeasement), as a stroke of strategic genius, which delayed the onset of WWII for a year during which Britain rapidly re-armed. I would like to think we've learnt since then but I wouldn't rely on it.