Preparedness for when

Frugalsod

greenbee wrote: »

The wind is horrible. I've been out and moved my car as I looked out of the window and saw the alarm light flashing so it must have been being buffeted. I've squeezed it in parallel to the (sandbagged) garage doors so it is more sheltered.

I wonder how many car alarms over the country have been going off for just that reason?

pineapple

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

Found this,which is interesting
http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2008/mar/01/scienceofclimatechange.climatechange

I believe him. I think we are whistling at the wind or the water, or the sun etc with most of our 'green' measures.
It's interesting though that he says Britain could be a place of refuge for people from mainland Europe. I'd have thought that the latter was safer! :huh:
That said - being an island would perhaps make it easier to 'repel boarders'.
I think those of us who are late middle aged can count ourselves lucky. We were born after the last world war and have lived a large part of our lives in a period of relative stability and prosperity. Unbelievably, in comparison to what might be coming, we might even look back on the past 50 years or so as a golden era! There - I've cheered myself up. I think...

pineapple

Haven't been up the garden to check the fencing but it's that heavy metal mesh type with sturdy metal posts bedded in concrete. I had it put up when I was going through my delusional smallholding phase and to keep out next doors staffy. I hated it immediately but improved it somewhat by painting it with green metal paint and disguising the lower part with shrubs and climbers.
Hope everyone is warm and dry.

thriftwizard

It's interesting though that he says Britain could be a place of refuge for people from mainland Europe. I'd have thought that the latter was safer!

Pineapple, I've read his books, and he thinks that much of Mediterranean Europe will be desert (which is already happening; the region of Spain we keep going back to survives on desalinated water, since they pumped all the groundwater out) and the east will become like the US Mid-West, alternately too hot & dry to grow anything, then too cold.

Other climate models have us getting colder, though, at least for a while, because of wobbles in the thermohaline circulation, i.e. the Gulf Stream shutting down.

A lot of "green" measures are just clever marketing. The only thing that would actually help is us learning to live with less, but that would bu&&er the economy, so no Government is even going to think about the possibility.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

I believe him too, I think what we are doing is too little too late...TBH.


The cost of recycling financially and to the environment totally out weighs the potential benefits.


The only thing that could have been done is to slow down and stop buying and producing un-necesery items, and over the top packaging etc. and I suspect the governments have been told this many a time, BUT if people cut back and didn't buy useless crap/wants then the governments and the whole economy would have totally crashed... ( which is happening now anyway down to greed)


lets take yesterday, Valentines's Day, do we REALLY NEED all that crap, just to tell someone we love them, I am sure a kiss and a cuddle would do that... look at the millions of trees and the energy, transport etc to produce and get those Valentine cards on the shelf for you to buy... and this goes for other events through the year...




Sorry went a bit off on one, lol... it just annoys me when I see soooo much useless crap being sold in the shops.. that are just dust collecting useless waste of money etc..

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DawnW wrote: »

This will at least allow a bit more light into the garden, hopefully be a bit more wind resistant, and be easier to train plants along

Wouldn't an open type fencing (ie. with gaps or a lattice) be more likely to survive high winds?

jk0

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

Watching the news earlier, and they said they are expecting the very bad snow that the US are having to be with us in several days!!!! What do you think?? Is this right???


If this is potentially going to happen, this is not going to be good on top of all this rain and floods etc.... I haven't got any coal/wood stored as we have used what we had, and now only buy coal, as an when we need it, so will try and spend any spare money on buying coal...

CTC, this morning I remembered these gadgets that turn paper & cardboard into logs. Have you got one?

http://www.greenfingers.com/superstore/product.asp?dept_id=200314&pf_id=LS9254D&co=fr&gclid=CI7av4j5zbwCFWfLtAodpS0AIQ

I might be tempted to raid my neighbours' recycling baskets for fuel on bin night.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

jk0 wrote: »

CTC, this morning I remembered these gadgets that turn paper & cardboard into logs. Have you got one?

http://www.greenfingers.com/superstore/product.asp?dept_id=200314&pf_id=LS9254D&co=fr&gclid=CI7av4j5zbwCFWfLtAodpS0AIQ

I might be tempted to raid my neighbours' recycling baskets for fuel on bin night.

I have looked at them a few times over the years, BUT I know I will use it a few times, realise its a lot of 'faffing' around, and they take ages to dry out, and it will end up at the back of the shed lol... PLUS now that people got the internet, the sales of news papers have gone right down, and I have heard the glossy advertising leaflets that come through the door are no good

Frugalsod

thriftwizard wrote: »

Pineapple, I've read his books, and he thinks that much of Mediterranean Europe will be desert (which is already happening; the region of Spain we keep going back to survives on desalinated water, since they pumped all the groundwater out) and the east will become like the US Mid-West, alternately too hot & dry to grow anything, then too cold.

Other climate models have us getting colder, though, at least for a while, because of wobbles in the thermohaline circulation, i.e. the Gulf Stream shutting down.

A lot of "green" measures are just clever marketing. The only thing that would actually help is us learning to live with less, but that would bu&&er the economy, so no Government is even going to think about the possibility.

Until we come up with a sensible way of measuring a sustainable economy. I do think that we can all do our bit but I agree with him about carbon offsets. They are simply too low to actually make any difference.

Perplexed_Pineapple

I think the Zerohedge website was down for an hour or so this morning.... back up now but for a while I was ready to get the ol' tinfoil hat out :rotfl:
We seem to have got off very lightly in the storms with nothing more serious than a few blown over bins and fences locally, and no disasters for us personally, though the wind is howling through the gaps around the window frames like a banshee.
Dragonette thank you for the link to the Guardian article, very interesting. It seems the perverse incentives of the Common Agricultural Policy have a lot to answer for :mad:. Which reminds me, something interesting was happening in Germany last week, the German constitutional court ruled that the European Central Bank interventions in bond markets were illegal under German law, but then referred it's own decision (if I've got this straight) to the European Court of Justice, suggesting they are accepting that European law overules the German constitution. I'm pretty sure the Germans never voted for that and nor did we. I'm coming to the conclusion that our own government has less and less power and is now only good for standing around in wellies looking at floodwater :rotfl:
(thank you to whoever posted that link, can't remember who it was)