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  • greenbee
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    Karmacat - Screwfix were best deal for hydro pads when I looked. Scats were best for hydrosnakes.

    One of my neighbours has placed a bulk order for about 50 polymer sandbags.

    My sandbags consist of - 20 bags of builders' sand (in plastic bags), 6 hessian sandbags, and tomorrow I'll hopefully have a dozen bags of sharp sand (in plastic bags). As well as the hydro pads that should arrive, and the hydrosnakes already positioned around the boiler.

    I'm just wondering whether to seal up the back door with silicone sealant and then put boards behind it and seal those in too. The problem is, I'm hopeless at working out how much it needs to rise overall before it gets into the house, but it doesn't appear to be gradual. The changes are sudden.

    I think my water INLET pipes are OK, as they all have taps on the ends of them. It's the outlets I'm concerned about.
  • it doesn't appear to be gradual. The changes are sudden.
    Interesting… and confirms what I've seen watching the river near us. I can drive over the bridge one moment & the river's pretty much in its bed & the new channel it's cut over the last few weeks. I'll drive back again an hour or so later & it's all over the place, even though there's been no more rain here. Complacency would not be a good idea just now.

    One thing; I very much doubt that many people will be laughing at us for prepping, for the next few months, at least. Maybe a few more people will see the sense of it, at long last, as it's affected so many people in so many places?
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  • Karmacat
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    Karmacat - Screwfix were best deal for hydro pads when I looked. Scats were best for hydrosnakes.
    I'd never even heard of Scats, oops – they look fascinating. Screwfix – there's a store about 5 miles from me that I'll be going past on Saturday. Excellent! And their hydrosnakes are still £5 cheaper than Amazon.

    One of my neighbours has placed a bulk order for about 50 polymer sandbags.
    Saw those on Amazon, looked a good deal – but I don't have enough stuff to fill them, thats why the hydrosnakes are such a good deal for me.

    My sandbags consist of - 20 bags of builders' sand (in plastic bags), 6 hessian sandbags, and tomorrow I'll hopefully have a dozen bags of sharp sand (in plastic bags). As well as the hydro pads that should arrive, and the hydrosnakes already positioned around the boiler.
    Its really close for you, isn't it, greenbee – I hope it doesn't actually get you. I've no idea how to work out the rise - I think you mean the general rise, don't you, not just the height of your floor above the ground outside?

    I'm just wondering whether to seal up the back door with silicone sealant and then put boards behind it and seal those in too. The problem is, I'm hopeless at working out how much it needs to rise overall before it gets into the house, but it doesn't appear to be gradual. The changes are sudden.
    Thats what people seem to be saying – several inches in a couple of hours. I can imagine a lot of exercise, getting up and down the stairs as many times as possible in those hours.

    I think my water INLET pipes are OK, as they all have taps on the ends of them. It's the outlets I'm concerned about.
    I'm still not sure I get this. My water inlet pipe is very easily accessed, at the bottom of my stairs (though I haven't checked it turns on and off). So I wouldn't need to take care of each appliance in that case, would I?


    If I had a non return valve installed, where the inspection hatch is, on the patio (I had it installed when I moved here, when I had a toilet put in upstairs), then I wouldn't need bungs or separate valves on individual appliances either, would I?
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  • Nargleblast
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    This morning my village had a thick covering of snow. Tonight, howling wind and rain, not a snowflake to be seen.

    Methinks this whole flooding fiasco will be the kiss of death for this government, on top of rising prices, benefits system changes, more banking scandals......trouble is, what alternative is there? As someone once said, "It doesn't matter who you vote for, it's always the government that gets in."
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  • greenbee
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    edited 12 February 2014 at 11:41PM
    Karmacat wrote: »
    Karmacat - Screwfix were best deal for hydro pads when I looked. Scats were best for hydrosnakes.
    I'd never even heard of Scats, oops – they look fascinating. Screwfix – there's a store about 5 miles from me that I'll be going past on Saturday. Excellent! And their hydrosnakes are still £5 cheaper than Amazon.
    I'm not sure that screwfix have the hydro pads in stock locally, so you may need to order for collection
    Karmacat wrote: »
    One of my neighbours has placed a bulk order for about 50 polymer sandbags.
    Saw those on Amazon, looked a good deal – but I don't have enough stuff to fill them, thats why the hydrosnakes are such a good deal for me.
    You don't need to fill the polymer ones (the 'sandless' bags such as flood sacks) as they are self-inflating like the hydrosnakes.
    Karmacat wrote: »
    My sandbags consist of - 20 bags of builders' sand (in plastic bags), 6 hessian sandbags, and tomorrow I'll hopefully have a dozen bags of sharp sand (in plastic bags). As well as the hydro pads that should arrive, and the hydrosnakes already positioned around the boiler.
    Its really close for you, isn't it, greenbee – I hope it doesn't actually get you. I've no idea how to work out the rise - I think you mean the general rise, don't you, not just the height of your floor above the ground outside?
    Well I do have streams on two boundaries. Although they are more like rivers now and one is launching a takeover bid for the road... Yep, what I can't work out is how much the water level needs to rise to reach the garage and house.
    Karmacat wrote: »
    I'm just wondering whether to seal up the back door with silicone sealant and then put boards behind it and seal those in too. The problem is, I'm hopeless at working out how much it needs to rise overall before it gets into the house, but it doesn't appear to be gradual. The changes are sudden.
    Thats what people seem to be saying – several inches in a couple of hours. I can imagine a lot of exercise, getting up and down the stairs as many times as possible in those hours.
    It's amazing how much I haven't done this evening. I probably could have got everything up by now, but I seem to work in short bursts of activity.
    Karmacat wrote: »
    I think my water INLET pipes are OK, as they all have taps on the ends of them. It's the outlets I'm concerned about.
    I'm still not sure I get this. My water inlet pipe is very easily accessed, at the bottom of my stairs (though I haven't checked it turns on and off). So I wouldn't need to take care of each appliance in that case, would I?
    I think so. That's what I plan to do - electricity, oil and water off at the main switch.

    Karmacat wrote: »
    If I had a non return valve installed, where the inspection hatch is, on the patio (I had it installed when I moved here, when I had a toilet put in upstairs), then I wouldn't need bungs or separate valves on individual appliances either, would I?
    I'm not sure, but I think that would work. It's something I want to look into when I get the bathrooms done (I want to move the soil pipes outside anyway). But I think I need to consider how the whole sewage system works and have a flood plan for it.
    This morning my village had a thick covering of snow. Tonight, howling wind and rain, not a snowflake to be seen.

    Methinks this whole flooding fiasco will be the kiss of death for this government, on top of rising prices, benefits system changes, more banking scandals......trouble is, what alternative is there? As someone once said, "It doesn't matter who you vote for, it's always the government that gets in."
    You're right. There's not much choice really - politician or politician. They may wear different colour badges, but they are still politicians.
  • Frugalsod
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    Karmacat wrote: »
    Absolutely - I have candles and matches on each floor, but I felt really uneasy just as I was typing :p

    I keep a torch in a place that is easy to get to and find if the power were to go out. I do have candles as well but they are in a drawer.
    It's really easy to default to cynicism these days, since you are almost always certain to be right.
  • Frugalsod
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    Interesting… and confirms what I've seen watching the river near us. I can drive over the bridge one moment & the river's pretty much in its bed & the new channel it's cut over the last few weeks. I'll drive back again an hour or so later & it's all over the place, even though there's been no more rain here. Complacency would not be a good idea just now.

    One thing; I very much doubt that many people will be laughing at us for prepping, for the next few months, at least. Maybe a few more people will see the sense of it, at long last, as it's affected so many people in so many places?
    I agree. I hope nothing particularly bad happens but if it did then I would be safe and comfortable. The best thing to do is make sure everything is dual use. If you can still use it during normal situations then people will not necessarily think you are crazy. As I clear my debts I will endeavour to finish my bug out bag. At the very least I will be able to camp out if there is a reason why my home is off limits for a period. If nothing bad happens then I am prepared for camping holidays. :beer:
    It's really easy to default to cynicism these days, since you are almost always certain to be right.
  • Thank you SQ and Butterfly Brain, I will certainly make a list of the items you both suggested and get them when I next go to the shops.

    DD had an interview at Liverpool Uni this afternoon but couldn't get back as Crewe station was badly damaged in the winds, so after lots of communication and tearful phone calls from her it was decided we would drive to Manchester to pick her up as she could potentially get there......as she was on the train there we heard that she wouldn't be able to get back as most of the trains had been cancelled so headed to Manchester, only to find problems with the M6 so we couldn't get to her there either. She managed to get the last train out of Manchester to Sheffield so mercy mission completed in God awful weather but everyone safe and only 250 miles round trip! :eek:

    It sounds like Friday is going to be another awful day but will be staying in and making sure everything that could blow away is tied down or put away.
  • VERY Calm here now after the storm, BUT by what they are saying on the news, we are in for it again tomorrow...


    Havent read the link yet, about the another banker dying..


    so what are you personal thought on all this? do they know Sh!te is well and truly going to hit the financial fan?


    If lets say the banks starting having a firm grip on people's money, do you think this will have some sort of impact on food prices etc???


    I am literly living hand to mouth and scraping by so to speak... BUT I am managing, good at juggling etc...so was just wondering how are peeps going to prep for this, if you got no surplus money etc???
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