Preparedness for when

Frugalsod

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

I really do wish some normal person, who lives and struggles in a normal day to day life would stand against these bunch of wassacks... as with all this BS about how the country is recovering well with growth and more people in jobs.. is just blantant lies and figure juggling.

There are plenty who could do a far better job and for less. This bunch of politicians are mainly in it to line their own nests. Also many years ago they changed the law to make it far harder for independents to stand against our corrupt parties by making the deposit so much higher.

Frugalsod

alfsmum wrote: »

This is a not a particularly poor area, but there's yet another food bank collection at work this week, seems new branches are opening all the time. Have gathered a few items to take in tomorrow, but wonder how long I'll be able to afford to do this.

I wonder if people who think benefit cuts are such a great idea now. The problem for many is that they are just as vulnerable if they lose their jobs. Many are a paycheque away from disaster.

Butterfly_Brain

The gagging vote was tied 245/245 but the government still got their way.
The only ones exempt from gagging seem to be the corporate lobbyists :mad::mad::mad:

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kezlou wrote: »

I bought a raspberry plant and some seeds

£world are selling boxes of plants - Strawberry, Blackberry etc.

[Deleted User]

Would this Gagging Law prevent you, from reporting an MP/Candidate to the police, during the run-up to an election?

mardatha

I wonder if people who think benefit cuts are such a great idea now. The problem for many is that they are just as vulnerable if they lose their jobs. Many are a paycheque away from disaster.
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Maybe they should have thought of that in the first place? maybe that's why working people in the 1920s and 30s stuck together then - because they knew that nobody else cared a bit.

RAS

Interesting reading from an unexpected source http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/comment/economic-view-no-matter-what-the-politicians-say-gdp-is-a-distorted-guide-toeconomic-performance-and-a-bad-way-to-measure-prosperity-9090467.html

RAS

mardatha wrote: »

I wonder if people who think benefit cuts are such a great idea now. The problem for many is that they are just as vulnerable if they lose their jobs. Many are a paycheque away from disaster.
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Maybe they should have thought of that in the first place? maybe that's why working people in the 1920s and 30s stuck together then - because they knew that nobody else cared a bit.

I think the suggestion is that one third of households have no savings on which to fall back if their income stops.

And given that anytime circumstances change and benefits have to be reassesed, there is a delay, many struggle.

GreyQueen

Interesting, RAS, and something I'm sure we've all noticed from our own life experiences.

Here's another very interesting story. Condensed version is three men climbed into a locked yard behind an Iceland store and removed approx £30 worth of discarded veg and other foodstuff from a bin. They were seen doing the climbing and were arrested.

The CPS has decided that they should be prosecuted in the public interest and now, during the course of the past few hours, the chief exec of Iceland has waded in to say they didn't want them prosecuted.

Not sure if the wronged party (Iceland, who don't seem to feel particularly wronged) has a right of veto over the prosecution.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/29/iceland-cps-men-tried-taking-food-bins

Now, I speak as a member of the public. I am very interested in criminals and wrongdoers being prosecuted. I do not consider taking something from a rubbish bin to be a criminal offense, and if it is, the law is an equine-type animal. If the owner of the items (Iceland) didn't want to try selling them anymore, and some other persons wanted them, I say no crime has taken place.

Different matter had they caused damage to property in the cause of removing said edibles, but that doesn't seem to be the case. What seems to be happening is the CPS want to bully and intimidate the freegans and are prepared to waste their time and money, which is ultimately yours and my time and money, to do so.

:mad: I very much object to that. Particularly as this is the same CPS who wouldn't press charges against the drug dealer who kicked my door in because they weren't 100% sure they could get a conviction. They didn't ask me what my opinion was, or apparently consider whether allowing drug dealers to bully and intimidate the law-abiding was in the public interest; it sure as hell wasn't in my interest.

maryb

Seems to me the key question is whether Iceland had abandoned ownership of the goods. If they had then the three were not depriving anyone of goods they owned. CPS will probably argue Iceland hadn't abandoned ownership - and that's probably right because Iceland have to manage their waste right up until it's taken away so that no-one can get ill from eating it. But even so, I don't see how CPS can say it had any value - you can't attribute the selling cost because it was goods they weren't allowed to sell.

I think there was a similar case a few months ago when it was Tesco that was involved. Can't remember if Tesco took the same stance as Malcolm Walker, who has always struck me as a good bloke.

ETA as I recall, the Tesco case was after a power cut which resulted in a huge amount of perfectly good food being junked