Preparedness for when

craigywv

Ha ha bob should have known u would have said that lol no I no I can burn paraffin in it but is there anything else cheaper like if tshtf ia there a more common substance I could use like the oil from chip fryer.........I wouldn't use it now but could earmark it for future use,or is there something else ,I know they would prob stink to high hell but in shtf would u worry?so bob brain of Britain what else can I use,please, thanks and a smiley face as I haven't been able to do symbols now for over a month. And a big kissxxxxxxxand pls don't come up with something only found in Nepal or somewhere x

ragz_2

I am wondering whether the breakdown and moving further apart, of extended families has a part to play in the growing numbers of chaotic families? I know some are saying they resent interference in their lives, but I think the gentle but ever watchful interference of grand-parents and inlaws has a definite effect on keeping parents on the right track...

Personally, when I had my first child, age 20, living in a small maisonette with my now hubby who at that point was a junkie (I didn't know, very naive!) I used to sit about smoking and watching tv all day... my sister in law would come over and cajole me gently into cleaning the mouldy pans from the kitchen, tidying up etc etc...
I became a much better parent from her influence and often think what would she do? What would she say about something? etc etc She was never once critical, but just gently encouraging me in the right direction. These days I am often found giving parenting and organising advice to others!

I think this is something many people lack, having relatives around with experience, who care about how well you do...

That same sister in law is now a foster carer (top in their agency, unsurprisingly!) and the last little ones she had for a year went into care not from abuse but simple neglect, not being fed or sent to school or having proper beds even! Their young clueless parents who had had equally young and clueless parents themselves... there were no sensible relatives in their lives helping them to do their job, which does not always come naturally especially when pregnancies are unplanned...
(Now those kids are living with their Dad who is doing an amazing job, much thanks to my SIL's coaching him!).

Anyway, that rambling really just meant to say, I think the fact that extended families aren't such a big factor to many is a big part of the growing chaotic family syndrome...

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GreyQueen wrote: »

When an "event" was anticipated

You used to back one out to a timetable :huh:

Your mother certainly had you well trained.

GreyQueen

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

You used to back one out to a timetable :huh:

Your mother certainly had you well trained.

I aim to please!

Seriously, a parent plays close attention to their sprog's bowel habits. It saves a lot of mess.

_pale_ I changed a nappy. Once. It was a toddler's nappy and was an interesting experiment in utter vileness. It confirmed what I've always known since before puberty; motherhood was never going to be my thing.

I mean, a friend once dumped their infant on my lap at a social gathering and the darn thing wee'd on me! And it was wearing a nappy. What sort of pal does that kind of thing to another pal, I ask you? A pal who isn't going to be on the next invitation, that's what.

I have decided one nappy change per lifetime is plenty. :rotfl:And little kids are screechy and give me headaches.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

http://iacknowledge.net/a-closer-look-at-china-and-hsbc-are-they-running-out-of-cash/ interesting.....

Frugalsod

grandma247 wrote: »

I used it for two years when we did the live on £4,000 challenge so we could over pay our mortgage. It works fine but whites need a commercial powder wash occasionally to keep them white. I have no idea what else would work because blueing did not work on synthetics.

I ma very lucky in that I do not have many if any whites bar tea towels.

Butterfly_Brain

GreyQueen wrote: »

Don't know, maryb, just don't know.

The trouble with being a parent is that it's the most important role on the planet and no one prepares you for it. I guess if you have a bad start yourself, you probably don't know how to give your youngsters a good start in turn.

What can a society do about it? What should be the response of the State, the schools, the neighbours, the wider family? No one likes the idea of intrusion of outsiders into their own family life, but most of us would probably think to ourselves something should be done when we're confronted by horrible examples of neglect and cruelty in other people's families.

Some people aren't adequate to the task. And some people don't care enough to try. You can blame them, sympathise with them, revile them, but their children are suffering just the same.

Unfortunately a lot of this is caused by kids bringing up kids, who have no idea of how to parent, not all of them are bad I hasten to add.

What makes me mad though is that everyone feels that they have the right to judge others when they have no idea as to what a persons individual circumstances are, and the grubbyment are the worst in that respect using divide and rule to batter the most vulnerable in society

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craigywv wrote: »

Ha ha bob should have known u would have said that lol

Actually, I wasn't joking.

When you said "oil", I assumed you were burning commercial lamp oil, which really is expensive, as in about £4 per litre and upwards.

I know I can burn paraffin in it but is there anything else cheaper like if tshtf ia there a more common substance I could use like the oil from chip fryer.

I'm afraid chip oil (vegetable or rape) won't work, as it is much too thick.

If the fuel is too thick, it'll clog the wick, which will mean you have to replace the wick.

If it's got too high a flashpoint, it won't burn properly, and again, will clog the wick, as will dyed paraffin/kerosene.

If it's got too low a flashpoint, it's highly likely to explode, leading to dangerous (and possibly lethal) consequences.

For this reason, don't even think of burning anything with a flashpoint below 100 degrees Fahrenheit, such as petrol, turps, paint thinners, meths, etc.

What you need is clear paraffin, with a flashpoint between 124 and 150 degrees Fahrenheit.

To make sure you are getting the right stuff, check the label for words along the lines of "Ideal for paraffin heaters and paraffin lamps, and/or bearing the code "BS 2869 C1".

Prices do vary a lot (the last can I bought was £4-99 for 4 Litres), so have a scout around your local area, including small hardware stores and the like.

A bulk fuel oil supplier might be willing to sell you a few gallons.

B&Q sell it at £6.98 for 4 Litres.

How does that compare to what you have been paying?

craigywv

Bob,that's a far better price I was paying near £5 a litre bottles came from hardware shop and seemed very expensive. So I shall go band q and stock up on some thanks. I was interested that nothing else was able to be burned though.

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You were paying nearly £5 a litre . :eek:

Are you sure you weren't buying commercial lamp oil?